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Message 11 of 17 (917405)
04-05-2024 5:37 PM

Reply to: Message 10 by Percy
04-05-2024 2:07 PM

Re: Evolution is NOT a "fact"

Percy writes:

What was "the first, original synthesis"?

From what I can tell, evolution is the least of ChemEngineer's problem. He seems to be arguing against protein translation in cells. He seems to think that it can't happen naturally, so I guess every protein in our bodies is the product of a supernatural act?

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04-08-2024 1:20 PM

Reply to: Message 12 by dwise1
04-05-2024 7:44 PM

Re: Evolution is NOT a "fact"

dwise1 writes:

But one last. "He" calls "evolution" (whatever "he" means by that) a tautology and calls it false on that basis. The thing is that a tautology is always true; it's just trivially true (ie, offers no actual explanation) and hence not useful. But it's still true.

The most popular target for the claims of tautology is natural selection. It is trivially true that those who have more grandchildren will have more of their genes in that generation. It is also trivially true that certain alleles increase the chances of having more grandchildren compared to those in the population who don't have that allele.

So yes, it may be a tautology. That also makes it true.

What isn't a tautology is the evidence demonstrating that the morphology and genomes of living species are a product of this mechanism, in addition to other mechanisms such as constructive neutral evolution.

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04-09-2024 5:28 PM

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04-09-2024 2:16 PM

Re: Attack on Titin

popoi writes:

This is the reason I never found any of the probability-based arguments from creationists convincing. It seems like it's mostly about picking a set of assumptions that produces an impressive looking number without giving much attention to justifying why those assumptions are accurate.

It's just the Texas version of sharpshooting.

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