Newton's Laws

my bad... http://www.thevortextheory.com

Um, yeah.I'll believe it when it appears in a peer-reviewed journal, when it makes better predictions than quantum mechanics and relativity, and when there's experimental evidence that can only be explained by the "vortex" theory.Good luck, though.

You really think that such journals will publish an article that says everything else they have ever published has been wrong?You will be waiting a long time my friend if your looking for someone to tell you that the vortex theory is correct. Maybe you shud go out on a limb and find out for yourself?

Of course. That's how journals earn prestige - by being the one that publishes Nobel Prize-winning research. And if this stuff is true than they're certainly going to win the Nobel Prize.What possible interest do you think they have in propping up Einstein's theories in the face of evidence? Eistein's dead. He's not around to make them do it.Nobody cares in science when you overturn theories. That's how science progresses. Since I'm not a physicist, how could I possibly be equipped to assess the theories of physics?

It takes a lot for a scientist to admit that everything he has ever learned is wrong. Were not just talking a scientist either... we are talking about every scientist ever educated in a school since Einstein.And your right if your not a physicist you couldn't possibly be expected to find out for yourself. But then to blindly follow what people tell you... well!!

Yeah, but only the minority of them are involved in physics. After all why should a biologist care anymore about the overturn of relativity than a physicist would care about a shuffling in the evolutionary timeline? It's not blind. The scientific methodology ensures that we can trust the conclusions of properly-executed science. And as soon as your vortex business is validated by that same scientific methodology, I'll be willing to put my confidence in it.It's not blind faith. It's just trust in a transparent methodology.

ah yes but when u accept this theory your faith beforehand will have been misplaced!

So what? Is that supposed to bother me or something?Plus you're assuming that we'll find your theory to be a better model. I'll give 10 to one odds that won't happen.

Actually, Crash... I think you should check it out. While it makes a few misstakes, it is REALLY well written, has clear and correct math, simple diagrams and makes references to real experiments.Even if it has some incorrect things snuck in to support it's conclution, it's the best ploy I've seen so far. A lot of throught must have gone into it, for whatever reason.

True it takes alot to admit that everything that he has ever learned is wrong. However that is seldom the case.
That is one of the things that makes peer-review such a good thing!
You present all your new evidence, calculations, discoveris and explanations for everyone to see!
In order to get published you must have found out something new, and your discovery must be solid, with no flaws. After publication lots of scientists will try to re-do your experiments and calculations, and if someone finds a flaw somewhere in the article, it will be pointed out. Many articles does not reach publication since the have flaws in them from the beginning, or they claim things that cannot be tested (ever or at the present).
It can also be that it tries to say something that has already beed explained but using a new viewpoint, so in effect it does not explain anything new at all.If the vortex-theory holds up, it should be published somewhere in some time.[This message has been edited by TechnoCore, 03-11-2004]

Eistein said,"The space of reference of K is therefore distinguished, with respect to its physical properties, from all spaces of reference which are in motion relatively to it (quiescent ether) But all experiments have shown that electro-magnetic and optical phenomena, relatively to the earth as the body of reference4, are not influenced by translational velocity relative to the earth. The most important of these experiments are those of Michelson and Morely, which I shall assume are known."If he had not said that could this reasearch you re-linked exist? Certainly I think Kuhn was mistaken to say that after- Einstein gravity changed, now you say after-after. Well that depends on WRITING DOWN with respect to the earth for I dont consider the Russians are aliens. So instead of me graduating I must consider that gravity "changed back?" no of course not!!I suppose that this work is to ditch E's view of special relativity but my guess for now is that it simply will show pluivocal use of "gothic letters" signing reality. Why cant some Maritians KNOW that negative pressure exists causing positive curvature of life on EARTH??There may be alogical advance which is not real just as there are computers that connect localities on earth that phones did not connect.

ReefAre you a physicist or are you getting a piece of the action from helping to hawk a limited edition [1000 e-book copies] of this vortex theory which is being sold for only $19.95? It never ceases to amaze me how this crap keeps propogating itself unchecked.Maybe you should get your bullshit radar checked.

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'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.'
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Actually your right maybe i shud ask for a piece of the action!!Its funny how people get mad about the possibility they might have just wasted the last few years of their life.Its also funny how you have already said its 'bullshit' before you have read what it is saying (even if it does cost money)Wouldnt the world just be a lot better if money didnt exist and everyone was as bright as the people on this site.But anyway play nice and if you want to refute the claims of the Esteemed DR Moon please at least review what you are calling bullshit

Reef
Easy enough to show that his ideas are flawed.
He shows a fundamental lack of understanding of Physics with this statement Can you spot the error which gives it away? Take your time because it is easy to miss.

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'Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts.'
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Bump!