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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Rudy has nowhere near that amount of money, but I hope Ruby Freeman and her daughter eventually get a couple million or so. Rudy says he'll appeal, and whatever the eventual award, they'll probably have to stand in line with other creditors.
--Percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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Yep, I don't expect them to get a cent from Rudy, but the rest of that fucking scumbag's life is a disaster of his own making and I find joy in his pain! History is recording has scumbag criminal behavior and that will be his legacy and he knows it, karma!
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Rudy will turn 80 years old next year, still spending all his time working to dig himself out of debt, meeting with lawyers, and attending his trials in courtrooms. Karma indeed.
--Percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
And by some accounts has to drink himself into a stupor every night to get any sleep. Yep, karma is a bitch!
I hope he stays alive long enough to get his just rewards!Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
The news is reporting that Rudy Giuliani has declared Bankruptcy, e.g., Rudy Giuliani declares bankruptcy | CNN Politics:
quote: I wonder if Giuliani filled out the paperwork himself, because the filing has an obvious error reminiscent of the sloppy work we saw during his efforts to overturn the 2020 election in favor of Donald Trump. The filing lists debts between $100 million and $500 million, but that's obviously wrong because the two Georgia election workers were awarded $148 million, much more than the lower number. His minimum debt has to be $148 million, not $100 million. Alex Jones was unable to use bankruptcy to escape the financial award in the Sandy Hook defamation case, and similarly Giuliani is unlikely to succeed in escaping the award to the election workers, because he admitted that he defamed them with malice. But the bankruptcy filing does halt all efforts to collect monies from Giuliani for now. --Percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Giuliani is unlikely to succeed in escaping the award to the election workers, because he admitted that he defamed them with malice. Plus he defamed them multiple times right outside the courthouse on multiple days. I really hope they get a substantial amount, so they can repair some of the actual substantial damage he caused in their lives. I fear they will not see any of his money before he is dead. There is some satisfaction in knowing that he knows how history will remember him, as a corrupt scumbag criminal!Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6
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The filing lists debts between $100 million and $500 million,
it's probably just a checkbox on a form that gives a range of debt. They're not looking for a number down to the penny. also: *nelson laugh*It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Tanypteryx in Message 306 writes: Plus he defamed them multiple times right outside the courthouse on multiple days. And he continued to defame them after the award, so they are suing him again. Just as with the first lawsuit, this second lawsuit is a civil case, so again the penalty is money and not jail time, but substantial monies were already been awarded in the first case. I wonder if this one could somehow find it's way around to contempt of court where Giuliani would spend some time in jail. That outcome would have a built in advantage for Giuliana since he'd already be in Georgia when the Rico case begins and wouldn't have to travel. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Researchers who follow such things say that online violent rhetoric is up after the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Donald Trump cannot be on the Republican primary ballot in that state (Colorado Trump ruling leads to rise in violent online rhetoric : NPR). The personal information of members of the Colorado Supreme Court have been posted.
Apparently each development seen as negative or detrimental for Trump results in an uptick of such rhetoric. The most extreme posts have been on Gab, Truth Social and Patriots.win, but some have been on X. --Percy
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
Researchers who follow such things say that online violent rhetoric is up after the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Donald Trump cannot be on the Republican primary ballot in that state (Colorado Trump ruling leads to rise in violent online rhetoric : NPR). The personal information of members of the Colorado Supreme Court have been posted. Apparently each development seen as negative or detrimental for Trump results in an uptick of such rhetoric. The most extreme posts have been on Gab, Truth Social and Patriots.win, but some have been on X. And you're surprised? Do you believe this action by those 4 unelected judges is a victory for democracy? Is the term "democracy" being re-defined?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Do you understand how our federal and state governments work? Have you read the US and Colorado Constitutions work?
Only one of the Justices are unelected and she will have to stand for election this next year. Don't listen to right wing media. They lie. Fact check: Are Colorado Supreme Court justices ‘unelected,’ as GOP has claimed? | CNN PoliticsWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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We do not live in a democracy. We live in a republic where the rule of law dominates not the rule of emotions. You won't acknowledge the difference since you are a brown-shirt wannabe in the Trump drive to dictatorship devoid of any law but his own.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
Do you understand how our federal and state governments work? Have you read the US and Colorado Constitutions work? Yes, they are very complex, and I understand how tyrants can twist and distort them to destroy democracy. Do you understand what democracy is?
Only one of the Justices are unelected and she will have to stand for election this next year. Don't listen to right wing media. They lie. The left wing media lies, often by omission. There's a lot going on that too many people don't know about.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
So you are ok with spreading lies and spouting unsupported bullshit? The justices are not unelected.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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There's a lot going on that too many people don't know about. Ooooo, conspiracy! Gotta love the deep state. I don't care if there is a concerted effort by the deep-state underground. If it keeps Trump from office it is a win for America.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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