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Tangle Member Posts: 9568 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Percy writes: Can it do math? It's absolutely certain that it can.
quote: Me: I get 530864154
It: Me: Please recalculate
it: Then it starts getting a bit dark, it won't do what I ask Me: humor me, calculate it again (I even use American spelling)
It: There's more, but first I need to know how I can know what the right bloody answer is. Edited by Tangle, . Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4595 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.6 |
That's a pretty amazing exchange! I got 530,864,154 also.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8632 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 8.5 |
Oh, lord, I get 530,864,154 as well.
That means math is broken. Not your Chat's math but the entire edifice that is, or was, math. The masters are never wrong. Reality is melting, melting ... Edited by AZPaul3, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
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Tangle Member Posts: 9568 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
“You can trust me, I am Bing.”
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. |
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Percy Member Posts: 22854 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
With ChatGPT it gets worse. 12345678 is divisible by 6, so I restructured the problem to ChatGPT and got this:
ChatGPT: Of course, the correct answer is still 530,864,154. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22854 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
I just tried and failed to convince ChatGPT that a video of young George Washington chopping down the cherry tree had been discovered during repairs in the attic of Philadelphia's Old North Church. It wasn't having it, but not because video didn't exist back then, but because extraordinary claims require robust evidence, and because such historical depictions on video are likely artistic or fictional interpretations, not a record of actual events.
--Percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8632 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 8.5 |
On Colbert's show was Neil deGrasse Tyson. He was going on about AI writing kids term papers. To paraphrase Tyson, education is changing. Maybe, in place of a written paper, we do oral Q&A sessions. Reach into their minds to see if the learning is really there.
Then he want on a woke liberal rant about how that would be labor intensive to do it right and we may need to hire more teachers and we may actually have to pay them. Radical. But I thought. How big is a high school term paper? My bigger ones were like 15, 20 pages and that was 60 years ago. Yeah, I could be verbose back then. We hear that ChatGPT can write such papers well enough. Has anyone tried it? A simple term paper: How has the internet changed how we communicate? or something. Does Chat do the job with the written tone of a high schooler? I see lots of talk about scholarly papers and the scourge of Chat but I find no examples of the dreaded bogus HS term paper. I'm just wondering if it could pass, without notice, by a teacher with years of experience in the demeanor of how kids write.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Percy Member Posts: 22854 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Here you go:
Question: ChatGPT: --Percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8632 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 8.5 |
I didn't expect anyone to run one, thank you. Now all we need is an experienced teacher to tell us if this was really written by a 16-year old.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4595 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.6
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Now all we need is an experienced teacher to tell us if this was really written by a 16-year old. Well, an experienced teacher would notice first, there are only one or two sentences per page, but I don't know if that would be expected from a high schooler or not.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Percy Member Posts: 22854 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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Ignoring ChatGPT's strange interpretation of how long a page should be, I think any teacher, especially a science teacher, would be very confused and suspicious about that paper, no matter whether it was submitted by a star student or a mediocre student. On the one hand it includes insights beyond even an outstanding high schooler, like the comment about the importance of exploring wrong ideas.
But on the other hand the paper is in serious error because it characterizes the Michelson/Morley experiment as an attempt to detect whether light was particles or waves. This couldn't be more wrong. While the idea that light consisted of particles had had a long history going back to Newton and before, by the time of Michelson/Morley the wave theory of light was completely dominant. That light was waves was the only reason for postulating a luminiferous ether, because it was thought that waves required a medium through which to travel, analogous to how water waves travel through water. Particles don't require a medium and had nothing to do with ideas about the luminiferous ether that the Michelson/Morley experiment was designed to detect. The reason for the dominance of the wave theory of light in Michelson/Morley's time was due to the discovery of light interference patterns using the double-slit experiment nearly a century earlier around the turn of the 19th century. Waves interfere with each other in deterministic patterns, particles do not. --Percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8632 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 8.5
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Thank you both.
I'm beginning to feel maybe a good teacher could tell a Chat from a kid. Still I like Tyson's point about doing more verbal quizzes, presentations. As Tyson said you reach into the kid's mind to see if the knowledge is really there.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4595 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.6
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Still I like Tyson's point about doing more verbal quizzes, presentations. As Tyson said you reach into the kid's mind to see if the knowledge is really there. I like it too, but even written tests should reveal knowledge or lack. I personally am more apprehensive about misuse of this machine learning technology to fabricate audio and video fakes of real people to incriminate or humiliate them.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8632 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 8.5 |
Yes, sir. I expect to see quite a bit of that this election season. We're going to need an AI to expose the fakes.
See there? We're already expanding AI's power and influence and we've barely invented the technology yet.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4595 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.6
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Several months ago there were a series of posts I saw on Facebook that were from an "AI" app that converted insect macro photographs into "alien" caricatures based on big-eyed grays alien models. They were amazing, but many were disturbingly malevolent appearing. The app was around $50 or so and I didn't try it.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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