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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Percy writes: A hands-off approach would seem to favor government keeping its hands off women's bodies. Is that your position? I do not favor legislating morality such as a mandatory abortion ban(which I oppose) I do not believe in the legislation of rights for an unborn child if they override the guardianship of the Mother.Whats wrong with having the Mother (and Father, if applicable) take full responsibility for the child until as far along as age 5? Only if they cannot handle the responsibility and give the state reasonable written notice can and should the state then take over. (or in the event of abandonment.) The parents should have primary legal and moral responsibility unless found incompetent.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
A hands-off approach would seem to favor government allowing teachers to choose freely among pronouns and not have to ignore that Abby has two daddies. Is that your position?
Here's what ChatGPT said when I asked, "Should teachers answer questions about children who have two mommies or daddies?"
ChatGPT: --Percy
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
As a Christian, I believe in separation of church and state in legal matters, I do not believe that legal means secular only. Just as parents have the primary responsibility of raising, training, and educating their kids until ages of accountability, the State has the responsibility to allow a family to develop within the parameters of their own faith. The State should never have as its goal any sort of moral,spiritual, or ethical agenda that supersedes a families chosen beliefs.
According to what you wrote, ChatGPT seems to agree.
ChatGPT writes: It's also important for teachers to be aware of and sensitive to the cultural and religious backgrounds of their students and their families. While promoting inclusivity, teachers should also respect the values and beliefs of different communities, ensuring a balanced approach that considers the diverse perspectives within the classroom. Edited by Phat, : added AI quote
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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Phat posits:
The parents should have primary legal and moral responsibility unless found incompetent. While this sounds good, it's not. Most parents will bring up their children to believe in the same shit they do,perpetuating the horror of religion and it's harmful side shows, such as Racism, Misogyny, Sexism and the like. But it is also scary to imagine a committee of some chosen people deciding what is best for children, so here we are. Imagine the Branch Davidians...or other weirder cults.... Who decides who is incompetent? "Me! Me! Us!" and here we are.
Edited by xongsmith, : picture of parents screaming at Ruby Bridges walking to school under guard "I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3985 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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And here we are in a world where U.S. Christians kill their children with exorcisms and medical neglect, and poison the survivors' minds with religious and racial hate, all in the name of parental rights -- oh, and in Jesus' name, too, amen. I wonder if those would fall under Phat's umbrella of "unless they are ruled incompetent."
Philip Larkin, that most dyspeptic of 20th century poets, had deep thoughts about parents and kids: This Be The Verse They fuck you up, your mum and dad.They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turnBy fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man.It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. - Philip Larkin (1922-1985)
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
As a Christian, how do you feel about the plight of those on our southern border trying desperately to enter our county after fleeing poverty or threats to life? Here's ChatGPT's answer:
ChatGPT: --Percy
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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that's kind of the namby-pamby kind of a one-size-fits-all answer you would expect from a collection of articles amassed over the internet.
don't offend anyone!. oh well. thanks, Percy."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
I've seen a few of these now. The response has been described as a trained undergraduate answer; keen to provide both sides of the conventional arguments without forming a view or providing new thoughts.
I remember discussing my first essay with my tutor at Cambridge about my mark of 73%. 75% was the mark required for a distinction. I asked her what I had to do to get the extra 2%. She said the most cruel thing a woman has ever said to me: "You have to say something original."Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. |
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
And I suppose that the progressive alternative answer is that the village has more of a mandate and responsibility to raise the child than do the parents. Scary.
Getting back to AI, Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin talked about AI in a transcript, found here.
The AI Dilemma What do we propose the "Village" (Progressives) do to restrain AI from messing with the 2024 elections? You old codgers are viewing AI from an ancient lens. As Tristan Harris says, GPT4 is already at the level of a healthy adult, one year after being at the level of a 4-year-old child. Unplug it indeed! Our world is changing at the speed of light. None of you appear versed enough to understand the implications! (Not that I am either) Another powerful episode was Synthetic Humanity: AI & What’s At Stake Some excerpts from this transcript.quote: The episode goes on to show how anyone's voice can be synthesized and mimicked, literally putting words in the mouth of that voice.
quote: The transcript and/or the episode can be found here: Synthetic Humanity: AI And Whats At Stake I know that some of you scoffed at the technology, but its here to stay and in my mind can and will fall into the wrong hands eventually. Am I being too pessimistic? Edited by Phat, . Edited by Phat, .
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I had a pointed question for AI:
Phat: Open AI: Im not impressed! If my belief is such that there is one source of truth and one truth, alternative viewpoints do nothing but obfuscate the issue.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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This happens when your beliefs are not based on any evidence and the evidence does not support your beliefs.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Phat writes: If my belief is such that there is one source of truth and one truth, alternative viewpoints do nothing but obfuscate the issue. Cult leaders in particular are especially intolerant of viewpoints other than their own. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
I recently posted a question at StackOverflow asking how I might make MUI's DataGrid sortColumn() function work. I received one unhelpful answer, then these two comments were posted at the bottom from a site admin. This one:
At least three of your answers appear likely to have been written (entirely or partially) by AI (e.g., ChatGPT). Please be aware that posting of AI-generated content is banned here. If you used an AI tool to assist with any answer, I would encourage you to delete it. And later this one:
quote: I had actually already asked ChatGPT this question, and it was actually very helpful by telling me what sortColumn argument values were legal. I had guessed the proper values already but had been unable to confirm them despite a determined Internet search (documentation of new software technologies is very poor), so I couldn't be sure my problem wasn't that the argument values were incorrect. ChatGPT evidently does a more effective job than Google of scouring the Internet for information. But ChatGPT was unable to tell me how to make sortColumn work, so I posted the question at StackOverflow. By the time I saw the admins comments two of the three answers he mentions had been deleted. --Percy
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
The full episode:
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/...reetings-people-of-earth The ChatGPT specific part:https://www.thisamericanlife.org/...eople-of-earth/act-one-0 I have not been following the ChatGPT thing much, but I thought this presentation was quite interesting. I listened to this on the radio. Podcast/download not yet available. To be available Sunday at 7:00 pm U.S. Central time. Moose
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Just asked ChatGPT "what is 12345678 multiplied by 43?"
The product of 12345678 multiplied by 43 is 530,864,254. I then asked it to regenerate the answer12345678 multiplied by 43 equals 531,440,154 The correct answer according to Excel is 530,864,154 I don't think we have anything to worry about quite yet - unless we try to rely on it for actual answers. I asked it again and it gave me the same wrong answers so I asked it why it routinely gives wrong answers to maths questions.
As an AI language model, I strive to provide accurate information and perform calculations correctly. However, I may occasionally make mistakes, just like humans do. These errors can arise due to various reasons, including the complexity of the calculation, potential inaccuracies in the training data, or occasional limitations in the model's understanding or processing of certain types of mathematical operations. OpenAI, the organization behind ChatGPT, continuously works to improve the accuracy and reliability of AI models. Feedback from users like you helps in identifying and addressing any errors or issues. I appreciate your understanding and apologize for any inconvenience caused by any incorrect calculations. If you notice any specific errors, please let me know, and I'll do my best to assist you. It seems to me that an AI that routinely gives wrong answers is more dangerous than one that doesn't. It also has a very shallow knowledge of stuff - as soon as I ask it for details of stuff I really know about it collapses into generalisms. It doesn't seem to be able to generate references to its information either so you can't check anything. Edited by Tangle, . Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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