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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tangle, I read in one of your posts that you are a very
educated man. You have like 200 degrees, some doctorates and some masters. And with all these degrees you cannot figure out thatthe beliefs of Darwin are diametrically opposed to that of God and creation. There is only two ways for life to begin. It is either byblind luck, or it is by creation. You mention that Darwin has contributed much to thescientific community. No, he has not. A belief in evolution contributes nothingto science. Darwinianism is the evolutionary science (it isn't really ascience) of the gaps. Dawwinians (remember that Darwin is the father of the"jelly-like substance-I get a good laugh out of this) have monstrously huge gaps in their evolutionary trees. There are no intermediary or transitional fossils. None. Anyone that says so is lying through their teeth. Recently, several biologists were asked if they knew ofexamples of one "kind" of organism evolving into another "kind" of organism. They hee-hawed around but could think of none. Onestated that he could name hundreds of examples, but was unable to name just one. One of them gave the stickleback fish as an example.When asked what the stickleback is now, the biologist replied that it is still a fish. I would say that Darwin has turned these biologistsinto mindless idiots. DE's insist that natural selection, guided by survival ofthe fittest, has led to the millions of differing organisms on the earth. Yet, they cannot fully explain what constitutes "fittest."They cannot say what "fittest" is. They have no good explanation for how new organsForm. Richard Dawkins tries to explain how the eye could havedeveloped over time. If everything is by blind and unguided chance, then thechances of the eye going in the opposite direction is just as great. For evolution to have gotten us to where we are todayit would have had to happen, not only to mammals but, to insects, birds, dinos, etc... Darwinians have no answers for the complexities of life. They cannot explain how DNA, which represents anabstract coding system, and absolutely points to intelligence, just came to be. Every nucleus of every cell in the human body has twometers of DNA in a microscopic dot that has the info needed to build each of us. It would take a very gullible individual to believe thatall this came about by chance. Remember that that the probability of one significantfunctional protein happening by chance is 1 to the 64th power. Or 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Also, the probability that one protein evolving intoanother similar one, based on minor changes would take: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years. Remember that the protein evolving comes only after the1 to the 64th power probability of a functional protein happening. The one protein evolving is barely, barely, barely, barely,the beginning of life and the myriad forms of it. I quoted Scripture to show that the rise of Britain andAmerica were foretold centuries before actuality, which points to a Creator.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Paulk, Surmaritans are not Israelites. The Assyrians,
which conquered the 10 Northern Tribes of Israel in 721 BC. Assyria, as is true with many conquering nations at thattime, deported natives from their homeland. The Assyrians replaced the Israelites with people from several locations. The Samaritans and the Jews despised each other. Neither the land of Samaria nor the Samaritans themselveswere promised a mighty nation and a company of nations. The promises made to the descendants of Ephraim andManasseh had not been fulfilled before 721 BC. The promises were to be fulfilled during the last days. Promises made by God of what would befall them isalso recorded in Leviticus, Jeremiah, and several other books. The prophet Ezekiel, although a Jew, was made awatchman to the House of Israel and also for the House of Judah. Ezekiel 2:3,5 & 3:17. Ezekiel, who became a watchman for the House of Israel,became so over a hundred year after Israel had been conquered and deported. Many of Ezekiel's visions of/for Israel are for the last days. Because of our abominations and eniquties Ezekielrecords that God would not pity nor show mercy to us. Ezekiel states that God will bring the worst of the heathens(Gentiles) against us. They will possess our houses and all that we own. Ezekiel states that the strangers among us is come torule over us. Ezekiel says that we will throw our gold and our silverinto the street. They will become worthless. Anyone who has food to eat will not sell at any price. I can say with certainty that I would give food and waterto anyone who comes to my door. This is what God wants us to do, if we truly trust him. Israelites will seek a vision and counsel from ourpreacher, but they will have none to give. They will have led us astray. Instead of the truth, Israel has only wanted to hearsoothing words from their religious leaders. Jeremiah states that it is the time of Jacob's (Israel)trouble. Furthermore, he states that there has never been a time like it, nor ever shall be. It will be worse than what the Jews endured under Hitler. This time it will not be only the Jews who go through this. Allof Israel will suffer this fate, especially the English speaking Israelites, who are descended from Joseph. We were to be a light to the world. We were to exhibit God'sway of life for all to see. We were to be a witness for him. Instead we have become a stench in His nostrils. This time is right at our door.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Paulk, Surmaritans are not Israelites. The Assyrians,
which conquered the 10 Northern Tribes of Israel in 721 BC. Assyria, as is true with many conquering nations at thattime, deported natives from their homeland. The Assyrians replaced the Israelites with people from several locations. The Samaritans and the Jews despised each other. Neither the land of Samaria nor the Samaritans themselveswere promised a mighty nation and a company of nations. The promises made to the descendants of Ephraim andManasseh had not been fulfilled before 721 BC. The promises were to be fulfilled during the last days. Promises made by God of what would befall them isalso recorded in Leviticus, Jeremiah, and several other books. The prophet Ezekiel, although a Jew, was made awatchman to the House of Israel and also for the House of Judah. Ezekiel 2:3,5 & 3:17. Ezekiel, who became a watchman for the House of Israel,became so over a hundred year after Israel had been conquered and deported. Many of Ezekiel's visions of/for Israel are for the last days. Because of our abominations and eniquties Ezekielrecords that God would not pity nor show mercy to us. Ezekiel states that God will bring the worst of the heathens(Gentiles) against us. They will possess our houses and all that we own. Ezekiel states that the strangers among us is come torule over us. Ezekiel says that we will throw our gold and our silverinto the street. They will become worthless. Anyone who has food to eat will not sell at any price. I can say with certainty that I would give food and waterto anyone who comes to my door. This is what God wants us to do, if we truly trust him. Israelites will seek a vision and counsel from ourpreacher, but they will have none to give. They will have led us astray. Instead of the truth, Israel has only wanted to hearsoothing words from their religious leaders. Jeremiah states that it is the time of Jacob's (Israel)trouble. Furthermore, he states that there has never been a time like it, nor ever shall be. It will be worse than what the Jews endured under Hitler. This time it will not be only the Jews who go through this. Allof Israel will suffer this fate, especially the English speaking Israelites, who are descended from Joseph. We were to be a light to the world. We were to exhibit God'sway of life for all to see. We were to be a witness for him. Instead we have become a stench in His nostrils. This time is right at our door.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tangle, I understand that there are theistic evolutionists,
but you are not one of them. You have stated that you are a hard atheist. A hard atheist does not believe in God. An agnostic doesnot totally deny the existence of a Creator God, but an atheist, especially a hard to the core atheist, does. A hard atheist cannot fall back on just evolution; thehard atheist has the extra burden of defining how life began. The complexity of the simple cell is completelydevastating to atheists. Most atheists will not admit this, but deep inside they know this to be true. Furthermore, the lack of transitional fossils is fatal fortheistic evolutionists. TE's are insultinly dishonest when they insist that thereare many intermediate fossils. If the fossils were there, they would be craming themdown our throats. But, they are not there. Even Darwin, who believed that the simple cell was madeof jelly, understood that the lack of transitional fossils would relegate his theory to fantasy. God creates by design, not by chance. God spoke theplants and animals into existence. He created Adam and Eve with His own hands. TE's are not helping God's cause by substituting lies forHis truth.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Paulk, if you Google Douglas Axe, you will find that he
gives the odds of many random events. What I touched on was just tip of the iceberg. I never associated time with distance. I simply quoted the odds of a random event happening. The other was given in the the number of years. And you hit the nail on the head. 13 billion years,according to Axe and Gauger, is not likely to be enough time. You call me irrational because I do not believe thatcells are not made of jelly. It sounds as though you agree with Darwin concerningthe cell. There is no need for anyone to be upset with me simplybecause I can see through the evolution crap.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Paulk, what does Ron Wyatt have to do with this?
He was one of the sources I used for the route of theExodus, but nothing else. If memory serves me correctly, you stated that theIsraelites crossed the Sea of Reeds, instead of the Red Sea. The Bible states that the water where they crossed waswaters of the great deep. Furthermore, the separated water formed great walls ofwater on both sides of the Israelites. Isn't it highly irrational, even delusional, to classify themarshlands of the Sea of Reeds as " the great deep"? Even when parted the wall of water at the Sea of Reedswould only reach three or four feet in height. In James 1:1, the Apostle James states that the twelveTribes of Israel were scattered abroad (Diaspora). To distribute in foreign lands. In Deuteronomy 33 and Genesis 48 & 49, the twelveTribes are spoken of as separate and unique nations. Both their blessings in Deuteronomy and their last daysprophecies in Genesis are not referring to the twelve Tribes constituting just one single small nation. It is ludicrous for one to even suggest this, much less totry and defend it. Ephraim was to become a company/multitude of nations.Ephraim's prophecies alone defies logic that the small land area called Samaria could fulfill all that applies to Ephraim in the last days. Moreover, Manasseh was to become a single great nation. If Samaria were that single great nation, the other eleventribes could not be counted as being in that nation. Or else, what applies to one tribe would apply to themall. It has been the modern nation of Israel (both GB & the U.S.)that has spread the words of God and His Holy Bible to the world. God does not use Gentiles to spread Him and His wordto the rest of the world. The Holy Bible is a Book about God and Israel. The onlymention of other nations is when they come into contact with Israel.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tangle, you ask if I would know what a transitional fossils
would look like. I am 100% certain that no one does. There are none. You know that there are none. I know that there are none.I'm just honest enough to admit this. I do not know how old the earth is. My understanding from Genesis, and elsewhere, is thatthe creation week was a renewing of the earth, which had been devastated by Lucifer's rebellion. Even the weakest of the angels (fallen and faithful) wouldpossess more power than earth's strongest hurricane. Many of the planets and moons in our solar system (thereis no reason to believe the war wasn't universal) still carry the scars of that war. However, man and animals have only existed for roughly6000 years. Interestingly, God is allowing humanity 6000 years oflife under Satan's rule. During this time humanity will have tried every form ofgovernment that can be devised. We will fail miserably. We will fail so badly that if Christ does not intervene,which He promises that He will do, all life would be completely destroyed. Matthew 24. God wanted Adam and Eve to listen to Him. He aloneknow the way to true peace and happiness. They chose to trust in themselves. God is giving humanity the time and opportunity to findthis out for ourselves (that without Him and His ways of "give" instead of Satan's way of "get" that complete peace and love for each other will never be realized). God will then show humanity His way, with Christ hereto lead us. He did not give up on the earth. He will install HisKingdom on this earth. Via this Kingdom all humans who have ever lived willbe resurrected and shown God's ways. There are exceptions though. But, the vast majority will fully embrace our loving Savior. Those who do will become the very sons of God. AsHis sons and daughters we will then become the family of God. Ourselves God Beings, with far greater power than Satan ever possessed.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tangle, No one knows how old the universe is.
It is impossible for humans to date the age of the earth. Any and all dating methods are not only flawed, buthighly flawed. And, they are manipulated to fit the paradigm of theadministrator. An offspring inherits traits from both parents. He cannotbe anything other than what he inherits from them. This is not evolution. Dr. Carl Werner, in his book "Living Fossils" relates thatit is quite common for fossil researchers to unearth modern bird fossils among dinosaur bones. Museums do not display them. It doesn't line up withtheir agenda. To withhold this information from the public is tosuppress the truth, and it is dishonest. Ducks, loons, flamingos, parrots, and fossils of manyother modern day bird fossils are found alongside, and even below, dino bones. Dr. Werner is not the only scientist stressing this.
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