The basic belief regarding the Trinity is that a Creator of all seen and unseen became a man in order to relate to humans, died and rose from the dead to redeem us from our freewilled (yet innocent) mistake of trusting the snake (ye shall be as gods) and after leaving left the Holy Spirit (an omniscient presence) and thus the never ending mythos (for skeptics). My question is this: It seems ass if every other mythos is eventually discarded by humans except the Christian one. Of course some of you have thrown "it" away and believed your own critically thinking skeptics, including yourselves. Tangle even claims that Christianity is dying a slow yet steady death globally...though the jury is out on that one.
So why do some of us cling to this belief so adamantly?
I watched quite a few clips from the movie, as well as interviews such as this one:
The Catholic Church is much greater than its weaknesses...but I feel that the coverup of the Priests and ignorance towards the victims is and was reprehensible.
Cardinal Law was well aware of the abuse within Boston, yet the Vatican transferred him to the second largest church in Rome--behind only St.Peters itself.
Dredge, you have to admit that Roman Catholics are as likely to be sinners as folks in any other church and are not superior in any way. Only Jesus is superior to the rest of humanity. And knowing Jesus does not absolve any of us of our responsibility to our community. It deepens it, it anything.
So essentially you are saying that if we dont have the knowledge of God or to prove God, Our lack of such knowledge equates to His lack of existence? Since when does human knowledge justify existence?
What if God was an equation?
Does everyone have to agree on the equation?
Must humans by definition define such an equation or can the equation be defined by itself?
Humans may have many different equations, but only one equation provides the answer. Or are you prepared to argue against that?
The Trinity has always made sense to me without turning me into a polytheist. Recently, I saw a 5 minute explanation which made perfect sense.
I also have covered some of this before in Message 221, Message 268 and in discussions about the beliefs of Ellis Potter.
Based on what he has told us, candle2 is a Binitarian and is a member of the United Church of God which gets involved in this whole "God family" nonsense.
He found a platform right here in this topic, and may be able to add one more post of defense to his theology, but I think he has burned most of us out on it. (You all will likely say that I'm no different, however! )
ringo and I had a series of discussions on it--and ringo as usual addressed each and every one of my claims. If he is still with us, he no doubt would add a summation, but it may well be that he now knows the final answer to this mystery far better than anyone else in this topic.
jar also had some things to say, and in defense of both of them, they were the guardians of faith and belief at EvC and I never could convince them of anything new. Message 228
Both of them helped me to think and grow and know what I was prepared to throw away and what I was unable to throw away. This was overall a useful discussion topic.(Especially early on)
Our resident anti-theist AZPaul3 also had a few things to say. Message 581
Dredge was just too Catholic at the expense of logic,reason, and reality but EvC critics would argue that believers in general are too shut off from logic, reason, and reality and continue to this day to make Catholicism, or reformed Armstrong-ism, or Calvary Chapel non-denominationalism (that be me) a case for fact rather than belief.
The bad thing about this topic is that a few creationist arguments were Dredged over here and took the wind out of a good philosophy discussion in the futile attempt to argue against established science.