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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
In that case, why would you say it's "interesting" that I quoted a man who converted to Judaism?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Sorry, but you're not making an sense to me. if "Life itself is meaningless", as you say, then everything you do in life is meaningless.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
unwise1 writes:
On the contrary, his words make it obvious that he was a theist: Zero evidence that he had become a theist. "We must admit that there exists an incomprehensible power or force with limitless foresight and knowledge that started the whole universe going in the first place.” (Anfinsen, as cited in Margenau and Varghese, ‘Cosmos, Bios, Theos’, 1997, 139). "I can think of little more to add to my final point having to do with the nature of God and the existence of God. Clearly, an all-powerful, all-knowing entity must exist to explain our existence.” (Anfinsen 1989). But oddly, despite converting to Orthodox Judaism, it seems he remained non-committal viz-a-viz theological specifics. So one might describe him as an agnostic theist. Agnostic theism - Wikipedia
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling666 writes:
Sadly - and rather disturbingly - your answer to all the above is "Yes".
Do you actively resist and disrupt religious functions? Do you shout, rant and rave when religion is publicly mentioned? Do you eat Christian babies?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
I'm also not stupid; I have three degrees in radically different disciples, two at Master's level, one from Cambridge University, England.
Intelligence is a curious thing... highly intelligent people can be downright stupid in certain areas of thought. "One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool" - George Orwell
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
Happiness and experiences don't add up to meaning. You're just a bunch of molecules that is here today and will be gone tomorrow, so you have no more meaning than a bag of mud. I'm also very happy. I'm long time married with kids, a good job that I like (in fact it's my own business), plenty of savings, a nice paid for house in a nice neighbourhood and good friends. I live in a modern western democracy with freedom to do pretty much what I like, free health care and education and a corruption free criminal justice system and I'm still healthy. In fact, I won the lottery of life. I have meaning in my life - plenty of meaning, life is good, I enjoy life. If you come from nothing and go back to nothing, whatever happens in between (life) is also nothing. You're sense of meaning is just an illogical (and meaningless) delusion. But since life is meaningless (according to atheism), it doesn't matter if you live your life in a fog of delusion. Anything goes, coz everything means nothing..
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling writes:
But you're still my best friend.
That is why I am a Truly Hard Atheist
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
No, but what I do get is that for someone with three degrees (in radically different disciples, two at Master's level, one from Cambridge University, England), you're a very shallow thinker. I'm asking you to accept that - atheist, not stupid, happy with meaning in my life - ok, got it? P.S. Any degree offered by any Humanities faculty is not a real degree.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
So true, but the Eucharist is not about being about intellectual. It's infinity more than that.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
infinitely
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling666 writes:
"Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you considers himself wise in this age, let him become a fool so as to become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God" (1Cor 3:18-19).
No intelligent thought to any of your creed.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
"the natural man does not accept what pertains to the Spirit of God, for to him it is foolishness, and he cannot understand it, because it is spiritually discerned." (1Cor 2:14)
gibberish
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
In other words, you believe there is no god(s). Atheism is a LACK of belief in god(s). Why are you so hung up on admitting that you have beliefs? Weird.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Witty ... but sad ... even sadder than your all-insect diet and the many insect-posters adorning your bedroom walls.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangled writes:
Puny science will always be clueless about abiogenesis, but you forgot to mention that the process that produced the life-form changes evident in the fossil record (often referred to as "evolution") is also unknown and can never be known. Science can't even know what happened, let alone explain how it happened.
There are some hypotheses but so far it's not understood and, what's more, it possibly never will be.
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