Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 50 (9181 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: joebialek123
Post Volume: Total: 918,282 Year: 5,539/9,624 Month: 564/323 Week: 61/143 Day: 4/19 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   The Power of the New Intelligent Design...
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1130 of 1197 (908866)
03-22-2023 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1121 by Dredge
03-22-2023 6:16 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
There no such thing as a "bladderwort" ...
You don't believe in things that can be seen, but believe in things that can't be seen. How appropriate.
This is a bladderwort.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1121 by Dredge, posted 03-22-2023 6:16 AM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1132 by Dredge, posted 03-22-2023 3:01 PM Taq has replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1131 of 1197 (908867)
03-22-2023 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1111 by Dredge
03-22-2023 1:15 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
In other words, he's relying on fossil evidence that doesn't exist.
No, that would be you. You are making claims that certain species have no ancestors with absolutely no fossil evidence to back it.
It's not that hard to figure out that our fossil collections are incomplete. We have only searched a tiny, tiny, tiny portion of the Earth for fossils, and new fossil species are found each and every year.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1111 by Dredge, posted 03-22-2023 1:15 AM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1133 by Dredge, posted 03-22-2023 3:05 PM Taq has replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1134 of 1197 (908890)
03-22-2023 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1133 by Dredge
03-22-2023 3:05 PM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
Unlike Darwinoids, I interpret the fossil as it is, not as I want it to be.
Then how do you determine if a fossil doesn't have an ancestor just from the fossil alone?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1133 by Dredge, posted 03-22-2023 3:05 PM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1136 by Dredge, posted 03-26-2023 11:23 AM Taq has replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


(2)
Message 1135 of 1197 (908891)
03-22-2023 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1132 by Dredge
03-22-2023 3:01 PM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
No, that is a freshwater octopus. Stop making things up ... and grow up.
Pigeon chess.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1132 by Dredge, posted 03-22-2023 3:01 PM Dredge has not replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


(1)
Message 1137 of 1197 (909061)
03-27-2023 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1136 by Dredge
03-26-2023 11:23 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
I don't attempt to determine if a fossil has an ancestor.
Then what do you mean when you say there is a gap in the fossil record?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1136 by Dredge, posted 03-26-2023 11:23 AM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1138 by Dredge, posted 03-27-2023 6:24 PM Taq has replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1142 of 1197 (909105)
03-28-2023 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 1138 by Dredge
03-27-2023 6:24 PM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
A gap in the Darwinian story ... a story I don't subscribe to.
What story?
All I know is life-forms changed over time - I don't know if they evolved from ancestors or not, so I don't look at the fossil record in terms of evolutionary ancestors.
Then look at them in terms of physical characteristics.
When we compare fossils we find that their characteristics form a tree-like pattern called a nested hierarchy. This is exactly what we would expect to see if life evolved from a common ancestor. Can you provide any reason why this isn't true?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1138 by Dredge, posted 03-27-2023 6:24 PM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1144 by Dredge, posted 03-28-2023 12:06 PM Taq has not replied
 Message 1145 by Dredge, posted 03-28-2023 12:09 PM Taq has replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1143 of 1197 (909106)
03-28-2023 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1140 by Dredge
03-28-2023 1:45 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
Fossils can't tell us what happened or confirm any theory about what happened ...
If life evolved from a common ancestor then fossils should form a nested hierarchy. Why can't we use fossils to test this prediction?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1140 by Dredge, posted 03-28-2023 1:45 AM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1146 by Dredge, posted 03-28-2023 12:25 PM Taq has not replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


(1)
Message 1159 of 1197 (909193)
03-29-2023 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1157 by Dredge
03-29-2023 1:56 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
Wow, in that case, you're an ignoramus who's read nothing about the evolutionary history of life on earth. Without the (alleged) evolution of novel body plans and organs, there would be nothing for evolutionary scientists to write about!!
Name a novel body plan and novel organs.
There would be literally thousands of scientific papers and articles published that discuss the evolution of novel body plans and organs. Here are just a few:
There's your evidence. Go read up.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1157 by Dredge, posted 03-29-2023 1:56 AM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1163 by Dredge, posted 03-30-2023 10:09 AM Taq has replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1160 of 1197 (909194)
03-29-2023 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1145 by Dredge
03-28-2023 12:09 PM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
An atheist's favourite bedtime story ... UCD and how neo-Darwinian mechanisms produced the changes evident in the fossil record.
Those are scientific theories, not stories. Is name calling all you have? Are you 5 years old?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1145 by Dredge, posted 03-28-2023 12:09 PM Dredge has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1161 by AZPaul3, posted 03-29-2023 1:47 PM Taq has not replied
 Message 1162 by Dredge, posted 03-30-2023 10:07 AM Taq has replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1165 of 1197 (909257)
03-30-2023 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1163 by Dredge
03-30-2023 10:09 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
Ever heard of the Cambrian explosion?
Name a novel body plan and novel organs.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1163 by Dredge, posted 03-30-2023 10:09 AM Dredge has not replied

  
Taq
Member
Posts: 10199
Joined: 03-06-2009
Member Rating: 3.1


Message 1166 of 1197 (909258)
03-30-2023 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1162 by Dredge
03-30-2023 10:07 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
I love your sense of humour!
So you are 5 years old.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1162 by Dredge, posted 03-30-2023 10:07 AM Dredge has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 1169 by MrIntelligentDesign, posted 04-06-2023 4:10 AM Taq has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024