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Tanypteryx
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Message 212 of 303 (908761)
03-20-2023 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by Phat
03-20-2023 1:59 AM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Is the answer coming anytime soon? I'm beginning to think that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 217 of 303 (908806)
03-20-2023 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by Phat
03-20-2023 1:59 AM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
Phat writes:
And I won't say I told you so when things unravel.
Since the unravelling is all in your mind, that's the only way anyone would notice it happening.
Phat writes:
Its likely that the peanut gallery will find a way to blame the Republicans, even though they are smarter with money than the Democrats.
Game, Set, Match!
Once again you convincingly demonstrate you have absolutely no knowledge of how economics, finance or money works. It is well documented that the Republicans don't know anything more about the economy or finance than you do. They don't even have a fucking clue what the Debt Ceiling is.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 223 of 303 (908825)
03-21-2023 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by Phat
03-21-2023 3:48 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Phat writes:
Meanwhile, the BRICS nations plan on forming a new Global Reserve Currency backed by Gold, which China has been accumulating at an accelerating pace. In essence, the "temporary experiment" that Nixon started in 1971 will be ended by China, our primary competitor...while we play tiddly winks with fiat money backed by nothing.
And what disastrous sequence of events are you predicting will occur because of "the BRICS nations plan or is it just all vague handwaving... "the sky is falling!"?
And can you describe just what behavior you are labeling as playing tiddly winks? It seems to me that we have a functioning economy, you know, money being exchanged for goods and services in a society.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 225 of 303 (908827)
03-21-2023 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Theodoric
03-21-2023 4:54 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
I'm wondering why the Chinese are sharing all their plans with Phat? How does he know how much gold they have and how much they're buying and selling and that they are going to set up his perfect dream economy based on gold?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 228 of 303 (909190)
03-29-2023 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Phat
03-19-2023 3:58 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Is the answer coming anytime soon? I'm beginning to think that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 230 of 303 (909332)
03-31-2023 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Phat
03-19-2023 3:58 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Is the answer coming anytime soon? I'm beginning to think that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 232 of 303 (909338)
03-31-2023 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
03-31-2023 8:38 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Oh bullshit! you made statements and now you are too cowardly to admit that it was all bullshit and empty crap and that you have no clue what you are talking about!
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Is the answer coming anytime soon? I'm beginning to think that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 237 of 303 (909414)
04-03-2023 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Phat
03-31-2023 8:38 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
I realize you are never going to explain yourself, because you just rave on and on with pure meaningless crap, you just can't help yourself, but I'm going to keep pointing it out.
Message 180
Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Message 202
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!
Message 200
Phat writes:
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.
Message 231
Phat writes:
For starters, read what Biden himself says.

Bidens remarks
Is the answer coming anytime soon? It's obvious that you are bullshitting us.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 239 of 303 (909440)
04-03-2023 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Theodoric
04-03-2023 9:11 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Surprising no one.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 241 of 303 (909644)
04-07-2023 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by Phat
04-07-2023 12:06 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Phat writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
I have read several books by people who study this stuff for a living.
And you still have not answered my question.
Phat writes:
You will argue that China does not have to be an enemy or even an adversary. You will argue that there is nothing wrong with trying to preserve the global fiat money system and that it is the conservatives who are clamoring for a financial collapse.
Your are just as shit at predicting my behavior as you are at predicting what's happening with world economics. I have never made any arguments suggesting anything you are predicting.
What I am trying to do here is get you to either explain specific things you have said or admit that a lot of what you say is bullshit, that it's just fluff with no actual content.
You claimed that Yellin and Powel were duped, but refuse to explain how they were duped and by whom and why they have not noticed that they were duped, but you have so brilliantly uncovered it...explain yourself or admit that you are just blowing smoke.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 242 of 303 (909645)
04-07-2023 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by Phat
04-07-2023 12:06 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Phat writes:
You will argue
You haven't noticed, but I'm not arguing a position (other than you don't know what you are talking about). Instead, I am trying to get you to explain specific things you have stated. Is there anything coherent in your sky-is-falling ravings? Links to books or videos are not an explanation.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 254 of 303 (910882)
05-23-2023 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 250 by Phat
05-23-2023 7:29 AM


Re: In Brief:
Tanypteryx in Message 181 writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Which country looks like it is behaving like a world leader?
You stated that Yellin and Powell were duped, but so far you have not described this duping. The basic definition of dupe is deceive. You implied that they were acting in a manner that would end in disaster because they were deceived by someone...maybe china?
My point here is that you just spout bullshit that actually has no informational content, it is meaningless noise.
Phat in Message 250 writes:
In the meantime, the whole concept of spending, controlling, and using money to finance global goals is changing. With the rise and eventual implementation of CDDC's,(Central Bank Digital Currencies) the direct control of money is switching from wealthy individuals to the power of government.
Can you provide a single documented case of a monetary policy change to implement Central Bank Digital Currencies?
Phat in Message 250 writes:
This concerns Conservatives more so than Liberals because Liberals favor bigger government.
Bullshit! Conservatives want to burn down the government of the people and replace it with a privatized profit producing theocracy.
Liberals want a government that functions for the benefit of all the citizens, as well as the wealthy and corporations. We want an efficient, fair government, not a big government.
Phat in Message 250 writes:
It was said of J.P. Morgan that he was in the pocket of the powerful banking cartel of the House of Rothchild.
By who? Documentation?
Phat in Message 250 writes:
Some say that regional (smaller) banks will eventually disappear by and large and that in this country only six major banks will survive. Assuming that to be a reactionary and alarmist sentiment, the CBDC system is a form of centralized control.
Some say? Documentation? And who is using a CBDC system?
Phat in Message 250 writes:
With the advent of CDBC's, nobody can operate apart from the central system.
Again, where are CDBCs being implemented?
Phat in Message 250 writes:
Money can be turned on and off to a 100x degree greater than current credit card systems. There will be no way to challenge such a system if your ideologies happen to disagree with the unipolar goals of such a system.
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
Phat in Message 250 writes:
You view China not as an enemy but as a worthy global competitor.
This is incorrect. I see the reality of China using any means at their disposal to control the future of the planet. IMO the Chinese government sees humans as cogs in a vast machine with no individual rights whatsoever, and I oppose this with every fiber of my being.
Phat in Message 250 writes:
You see nothing wrong with an eventual one world system of cooperation and unified goals.
And you are shit at mind reading. I assume YOU have an extensive list of all the things disastrously wrong with a one world system of cooperation and unified goals?
Phat in Message 250 writes:
And to you, it matters little (apparently) whether or not the leading nation behind such a change is Communist.
What have you to say for yourself?
Actually, it doesn't matter to me at all, because I have no means whatsoever to avoid whatever changes or control to the global economy, or society, China is trying to achieve.
The U.S. infrastructure is crumbling while China is spending trillions on theirs, and so far we are spending trillions on corporations and the 1%.
Who the fuck do you think will win?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 259 of 303 (910896)
05-24-2023 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Phat
05-24-2023 12:25 PM


Re: In Brief:
Phat in Message 257 writes:
The difference is that now, once you withdraw a sum from the bank, you can do what you want with it anonymously.
Withdrawals over $5000 require government forms, and there is hardly anywhere that purchase transactions are not recorded electronically. With video surveillance, there is an electronic record of even most cash transactions. Your anonymity is an illusion.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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From: Oregon, USA
Joined: 08-27-2006
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Message 268 of 303 (910917)
05-25-2023 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Phat
05-25-2023 8:32 PM


Re: Fascism is here
Phat in Message 265 writes:
They really need to quit pushing CRT.
Can you name a school that has CRT on its curriculum?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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