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Tanypteryx
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Message 1115 of 1197 (908838)
03-22-2023 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1113 by Dredge
03-22-2023 1:28 AM


Re: Cult Of The Darwinoids:Topic Synopsis
Charles Darwin's contribution to science is vastly overrated.
And yet, you seem totally fascinated by him, you yammer on and on about him, you are obsessed and have DARWIN tattooed across your forehead with curlicues.
All of science recognizes that Charles Darwin, quite eloquently, described a process that explained how new species formed through descent with modification and for the next 160 years many millions of scientists have been scouring the planet, looking inside all the animals and looking inside the rocks, looking inside all the genomes and all the evidence supports the modern Theory of Evolution.
It's funny how much you use Darwin's name, considering what a minor figure you say he is.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1148 of 1197 (909127)
03-28-2023 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1147 by Dredge
03-28-2023 12:30 PM


Re: Typical?
sludge writes:
For starters, fossils can't tell us what process produced the changes in life-forms evident in the fossil record
That's why we don't use fossils for that, instead we use genetics and developmental biology to tell us about the processes that produced those changes. The fossils show us that life changed over time. That's the cool thing about science, it guides us in our choices of which questions specific evidence answers.
That's a fact you seem to have trouble accepting.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1150 of 1197 (909140)
03-28-2023 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1149 by Dredge
03-28-2023 2:36 PM


Re: Typical?
sludge writes:
There are zero genetic examples of novel body plans and organs evolving.
So? What's your point? Can you even describe a novel body plan or organ?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1152 of 1197 (909164)
03-28-2023 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1151 by Dredge
03-28-2023 3:37 PM


Re: Typical?
Sludge writes:
Please explain how can you claim to understand how genetics produced novel body plans and organs when no one has ever observed such changes?
I have never made such a claim, so what's your point?
However we can and do observe descent with modification and it has been well documented for several centuries. Every single phylum has been, and is being studied by numerous researchers looking at every clade level and right on down to species level specialists, analyzing genes and biomolecules, development and life histories, selective forces, and fossil lineages and on a planet with 8 billion people that's a shitload of scientists studying every aspect of life. And all those different science's documented observations support descent with modification and we don't see any of those scientists pointing out how any living organisms are actually violating any of the rules governing how physics and chemistry works on planet earth.
The thing you guys always ignore is that every scientist wants to make a memorable discovery and no one would pass up the opportunity to be celebrated as the exposer of a massive fraud scheme that has been going on for 160 years and involving millions of scientists. And then there's all the physicists and chemists and geologists, etc. on planet Earth, that are also not pointing out discrepancies in the Theory of Evolution either.
I would still like to know, can you even describe a novel body plan or organ?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1155 of 1197 (909174)
03-29-2023 12:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1153 by Dredge
03-29-2023 12:28 AM


Re: Typical?
Like I said, I never made any claims about novel body plans or organs.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1156 of 1197 (909175)
03-29-2023 12:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1154 by Dredge
03-29-2023 12:33 AM


Re: Typical?
Sludge writes:
Lame. So when scientists discuss the evolution of novel body plans and organs, you've got idea what they're talking about?
No, when you talk about novel body plans and organs I don't know what you mean and you don't seem to ever have an answer. The only people I ever hear talking about novel body plans and organs are young earth creationists like you.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1158 of 1197 (909188)
03-29-2023 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1157 by Dredge
03-29-2023 1:56 AM


Re: Typical?
Sludge writes:
There would be literally thousands of scientific papers and articles published that discuss the evolution of novel body plans and organs.
And I note that YOU still haven't described a single novel body plan or organ. Novel implies something completely new and unlike anything prior.
Evolutionary processes do not produce novel body plans or organs in a single generation (which is the strawman you are implying), that's something that an ignoramus creationist would believe.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1177 of 1197 (909648)
04-07-2023 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1174 by AZPaul3
04-06-2023 7:00 PM


AZ writes:
I watched the video.
‚Äč
As did I.
Is the last half any different from the 1st half?
It turns out I was wrong about MrID's main problem. I thought thinking and speaking English was a big issue, but it turns out he's just as ignorant, nutty and delusional in real (video) life as he seems in text.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1184 of 1197 (909777)
04-11-2023 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1182 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-11-2023 5:04 AM


MrID writes:
I am not delusional. I am solving the question of "WHAT IS GRAVITY?"
Someone already did that, and you haven't added anything new, so yeah, you are delusional. The BIG QUESTION is WHAT IS DARK ENERGY?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 1191 of 1197 (910266)
04-20-2023 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1189 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-20-2023 2:38 AM


Re: troll alert
MrID writes:
This is the thread that I had started about the new ID and the new ID is so powerful that it could also explain PHYSICS, like gravity, thus, you are probably ignoramous of that topic.
Great! Show us how to calculate the trajectory for a satellite launch to Saturn.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
Inactive Member


Message 1194 of 1197 (910389)
04-21-2023 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1193 by MrIntelligentDesign
04-21-2023 8:56 PM


Re: troll alert
So, show us your mastery of the subject, or are you just blowing smoke?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
Inactive Member


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Message 1197 of 1197 (910783)
05-13-2023 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1196 by MrIntelligentDesign
05-13-2023 11:16 PM


Re: troll alert
MrIntelligentDesign in Message 1196 writes:
Tanypteryx in Message 1194 writes:
So, show us your mastery of the subject, or are you just blowing smoke?
What do you mean?
You were lecturing us about your expertise in gravity, give us a demonstration. Show us how you would calculate the trajectory of a space craft traveling from Earth to Jupiter. It should be easy for an expert like you.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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