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Dredge
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Message 1031 of 1086 (908929)
03-23-2023 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1028 by Tanypteryx
03-23-2023 2:07 PM


Meaninglessness meaninglessly means meaningnless meaninglessness. Look and learn ... even though it's meaningless.

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Message 1035 of 1086 (908938)
03-24-2023 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1033 by AZPaul3
03-23-2023 7:41 PM


APauling666 writes:
Ok. So your individual life is meaningless on the scale of the universe.
Of course - since the universe is utterly meaningless too.

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Message 1036 of 1086 (908939)
03-24-2023 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1033 by AZPaul3
03-23-2023 7:41 PM


APauling666 writes:
So what next? There are no controls? No limits? You can descend into meaningless debauchery and proselytizing evil religions because you can't balance your meaningless evil nature?
Since life is meaningless (according to atheism), it doesn't matter if you do good things or evil things ... since good and evil are as meaningless as each other. Life is as meaningless as non-life. Love is meaningless as well.

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Dredge
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Message 1037 of 1086 (908940)
03-24-2023 1:40 AM
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03-23-2023 7:41 PM


APaul666 writes:
So what does it mean for your meaningless life to be meaningless?
That's for you to answer ... you're a disciple of Meaninglessness, not me.

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Dredge
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Message 1041 of 1086 (908947)
03-24-2023 4:37 AM
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03-24-2023 3:03 AM


You seem to think the universe has meaning. If your atheism is true, nothing has meaning - including the universe.

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Message 1043 of 1086 (908974)
03-25-2023 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1042 by Stile
03-24-2023 9:50 AM


Sorry, but your post is completely devoid of merit. Fail.

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Message 1044 of 1086 (908975)
03-25-2023 9:18 AM
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03-24-2023 9:50 AM


Stale writes:
Subjective meaning is better than objective meaning.
Simply because that's how meaning works.
Meaningless.

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Message 1047 of 1086 (909002)
03-26-2023 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1023 by Tangle
03-22-2023 2:58 PM


Tangles writes:
So you've finally gone full dick-head fundamentalist nutter.
Thank you. Sounds like I'm on the right track.

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Dredge
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Message 1056 of 1086 (909016)
03-26-2023 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1052 by Tangle
03-26-2023 1:06 PM


Re: Ya Gotta Have Stile
Tangled writes:
There is no such thing as a 'deeper truth'
If this life is all there is, there is no 'deeper truth' ... there is only meaninglessness.

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Dredge
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Message 1057 of 1086 (909017)
03-26-2023 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1038 by AZPaul3
03-24-2023 2:51 AM


APauling666 writes:
Then you admit that, even you the cracker-munching creationist, acknowledge that life is a meaningless emergent property of matter and exists for no other reason than that it can.
Have I taught you nothing? This life has meaning iff (if and only if) there is an afterlife. Not even God can give a finite life meaning.

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Message 1058 of 1086 (909018)
03-26-2023 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1053 by nwr
03-26-2023 1:25 PM


Re: Ya Gotta Have Stile
nwr writes:
I left Christianity and religion, because so many of those who called themselves "Christian" were not even trying to act as Jesus taught
So your "faith" depended on the actions of other people ... in other words you were never a Christain and your "faith" was fake.

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Message 1067 of 1086 (909031)
03-27-2023 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1060 by Theodoric
03-26-2023 5:17 PM


Re: Ya Gotta Have Stile
Theodorkic writes:
My children are not meaningless.
You're conflating emotions and meaning - they're not the same thing.
If this life is all there is and life is the result of mindless evolution, human offspring have no more meaning than the offspring of bacteria or the offspring of mosquitoes or the offspring of worms.
If this life is all there is and life is the result of mindless evolution, all organisms are just collections of molecules ... and molecules don't have any meaning. So living organisms have no more meaning than lifeless matter.

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Dredge
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Message 1068 of 1086 (909032)
03-27-2023 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1061 by nwr
03-26-2023 5:35 PM


Re: Ya Gotta Have Stile
nwr writes:
No, not at all. It was about my actions.
In your previous post you said "Christianity was about actions, about what we do and how we interact with other people" and that you gave it away bcoz of the actions of other Christians. That sounds like your faith was not based on Christ but on the actions of your fellow-Christians. That strikes me as a rather odd basis for Christian faith.
Christianity is about loving God and placing your faith in Christ ... the actions of some of your fellow-Christians should be irrelevant. No wonder you didn't last.

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Message 1069 of 1086 (909033)
03-27-2023 9:25 AM
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03-26-2023 5:47 PM


Re: Ya Gotta Have Stile
It's not sad for me. My life has meaning because it isn't finite.

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Message 1071 of 1086 (909036)
03-27-2023 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1070 by Theodoric
03-27-2023 9:26 AM


Re: Ya Gotta Have Stile
Theodoric writes:
Bacteria, worms and mosquitos all have meaning.
What "meaning" is that?
‚ÄčIf this life is there is and all life is the result of mindless evolution, bacteria, worms and mosquitos ... and humans ... have no more meaning than lifeless dust.

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