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Dredge
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Message 1006 of 1086 (908789)
03-20-2023 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1004 by AZPaul3
03-20-2023 2:19 PM


You have a fever. Seek professional help.

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Message 1007 of 1086 (908792)
03-20-2023 2:57 PM
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03-20-2023 2:36 PM


But what he's really saying is this is proof that the catholic church is no more moral than the rest of the assholes in the general population.
Oh, no. He is admitting his church is considerably less moral than normal society.
In secular organizations pedophiles are revealed, tried and imprisoned. In a church the pedophile priest is kept hidden, moved to another archdiocese and put in charge of Youth Bible Studies.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 1008 of 1086 (908794)
03-20-2023 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1006 by Dredge
03-20-2023 2:51 PM


You have a fever.
Indeed.
It's a disease spread throughout all our species. Deadly, immoral, evil. It is called religion. Like all evil in society it must be opposed and brought low.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 1009 of 1086 (908795)
03-20-2023 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1008 by AZPaul3
03-20-2023 3:01 PM


Wiping The Hard Drive
Except that you cant control how people think, what they believe, or make them do anything. There's the rub.

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Message 1010 of 1086 (908799)
03-20-2023 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1009 by Phat
03-20-2023 3:19 PM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
Except that you cant control how people think ...
Yes we can. Brainwashing youth and weak-minded alike is how religion recruits its acolytes. We can counter this religious drumbeat of death with constant exposure of reality.
Religion is an incompetent selfish emotional salve. You know you are a good example of the uselessness of faith. It has done nothing but confuse you and cause you to bury your head in an absurd fantasy.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1011 of 1086 (908812)
03-20-2023 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1009 by Phat
03-20-2023 3:19 PM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
Phat writes:
Except that you cant control how people think, what they believe, or make them do anything. There's the rub.
‘Give me a child till he is seven years old and I will show you the man.’
St Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit Brotherhood

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 1012 of 1086 (908831)
03-21-2023 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1010 by AZPaul3
03-20-2023 3:41 PM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
AZPaul3 writes:
Brainwashing youth and weak-minded alike is how religion recruits its acolytes. We can counter this religious drumbeat of death with constant exposure of reality.
I don't have an overly negative view of religious indoctrination, but the trends are hard to ignore. From what I have read, about 80% of Christians are Christians because they grew up in the church. As more and more people leave the church in the US we will see fewer and fewer Christians over time. In my lifetime (if I make it to the average), I may even see the cross-over point where Christians are not longer the majority. The UK seems to be doing just fine with that situation, and I suspect the US will do just fine as well.

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Dredge
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Message 1013 of 1086 (908860)
03-22-2023 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1008 by AZPaul3
03-20-2023 3:01 PM


Good luck with that ...

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Dredge
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Message 1014 of 1086 (908861)
03-22-2023 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 1010 by AZPaul3
03-20-2023 3:41 PM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
APauling666 writes:
Religion is an incompetent selfish emotional salve. You know you are a good example of the uselessness of faith. It has done nothing but confuse you and cause you to bury your head in an absurd fantasy.
If you're correct and this life is all there is, life is meaningless, so it doesn't matter if someone lives in a religious fantasy world.

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Dredge
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Message 1015 of 1086 (908862)
03-22-2023 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1012 by Taq
03-21-2023 6:37 PM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
The decline you speak of is foretold in the Bible ... it heralds the Second Coming of Christ. Bring it on!

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Taq
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Message 1016 of 1086 (908868)
03-22-2023 11:02 AM
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03-22-2023 9:03 AM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
Dredge writes:
The decline you speak of is foretold in the Bible ... it heralds the Second Coming of Christ.
Everything has been claimed to herald the Second Coming of Christ.

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Message 1017 of 1086 (908870)
03-22-2023 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1016 by Taq
03-22-2023 11:02 AM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
Everything has been claimed to herald the Second Coming of Christ.
For millennia extending back to earliest history (and undoubtedly extending even before that into prehistory, though nobody thought to write it down). Eg, "There will be wars and rumors of wars." -- so when hasn't there been?
I even had a book, "History of the End of the World", which was filled with such examples, the vast majority of which had nothing to do with the Bible.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1018 of 1086 (908872)
03-22-2023 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1015 by Dredge
03-22-2023 9:03 AM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
it heralds the Second Coming of Christ. Bring it on!
Didn't you guys do that last year and the year before that and ...

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 1019 of 1086 (908876)
03-22-2023 2:06 PM
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03-22-2023 1:30 PM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
Silly Rabbit! The Holy Spirit is already here. You and your science have no power nor ability to vanquish Him. Jesus returns later, after humans have mucked up everything. We do owe it to ourselves to give it the old college try, however!
The Weather could determine a lot!

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Dredge
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Message 1020 of 1086 (908878)
03-22-2023 2:41 PM
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03-22-2023 1:30 PM


Re: Wiping The Hard Drive
You're probably thinking of Jehovah's Witnesses.

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