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Theodoric
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Message 196 of 303 (908541)
03-16-2023 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by Taq
03-16-2023 10:43 AM


Re: China Has More To Lose Than Anyone Else
And 6 months before that. Instead of Friedman unit we should call them Phat units.
Friedman Unit - Wikipedia

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 197 of 303 (908543)
03-16-2023 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Phat
03-16-2023 9:40 AM


Re: China Has More To Lose Than Anyone Else
Im simply concerned about my retirement. Arn't you?
No, I'm not concerned about retirement.
This is partly because it is too late for me to be concerned. And it's partly because I did plan for retirement starting with my first full time job. It's called "long term planning". I'm not sure why, but conservatives and libertarians seem to not be good at that.
The Wealthy stole the American Dream from the rest of us.
But you vote for them. Maybe you should be angry at yourself.

--> -->Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity <-- <--

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Message 198 of 303 (908599)
03-16-2023 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 176 by Phat
03-14-2023 8:48 AM


Re: In Brief:
Phat asks:
Whats an MTG chair?
no harm intended, Phat.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 199 of 303 (908621)
03-17-2023 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 180 by Phat
03-14-2023 2:12 PM


Phat writes:
No. I stand by this one. China has been playing the long game with America for 50 years. Our esteemed financial geniuses have been duped.
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Phat
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Message 200 of 303 (908705)
03-19-2023 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 157 by Taq
03-10-2023 12:07 PM


Re: Grinding America Down
Taq writes:
Communism as a concept isn't evil, per se. One could argue that Marxist philosophies are evil in certain ways, I would agree there. However, the idea of the workers owning the means of production isn't evil in and of itself. What was evil is the groups of people who implemented communism.
The threat they pose is not because of their economic policies, which have become quite capitalist in the last few decades.
Oh but it is! It is in fact an economic war.
To start with, as I frame this argument, lets discuss Modern Monetary Theory.|
I will finish later, as I have to (am blessed to be able to) go to work right now. I will attempt to explain how the US Economy came off of the rails starting in the early seventies and worsening every year since then.
Tanypteryx writes:
Just what exactly is this duping that you have brilliantly uncovered?
Have a seat, Damselfly. I must go earn money to feed the larvae, but shall return later.

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Tangle
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Message 201 of 303 (908706)
03-19-2023 4:03 PM


Oh great, Phat the supermarket checkout guy is going to explain Monetary theory to us.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 202 of 303 (908707)
03-19-2023 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by Tangle
03-19-2023 4:03 PM


Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field". But just wait until you find out the truth about Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin!

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Message 203 of 303 (908708)
03-19-2023 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Phat
03-19-2023 4:06 PM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
Phat writes:
I realize that you all are "impressed" and/or persuaded by "experts in their field".
Oh yes, we're all "impressed" that you are the "Chinese duping expert." So, do you think Jerome Powell and Janet Yellin are still unaware of this Chinese duping?
With your permission Id like to nominate you to the President's Economic Council.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tangle
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Message 204 of 303 (908709)
03-19-2023 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by Phat
03-19-2023 4:06 PM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
Phat, I'm not reading a word you say - or more likely, watching the dumb-arsed video you've just found.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Phat
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Message 205 of 303 (908727)
03-20-2023 1:59 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Tangle
03-19-2023 4:26 PM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
And I won't say I told you so when things unravel. You are the financial "expert" after all. Its likely that the peanut gallery will find a way to blame the Republicans, even though they are smarter with money than the Democrats.
One thing that can be blamed, however: (From Investopedia)
Modern Monetary Theory (MMT): Definition, History, and Principles
So who is the mastermind that developed such a theory?
It figures he is a Democrat!! Warren Mosler!
Of course he only has a B.A. in economics, but his work has been translated into several languages. And sorry to break it to the peanut gallery BUT HE IS WRONG!
I know. God told me. And in a way, i'm glad that the majority of you disagree with me.
Mark the date: 3/19/2023 is when I stated this.

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PaulK
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Message 206 of 303 (908728)
03-20-2023 2:11 AM
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03-20-2023 1:59 AM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
quote:
And I won't say I told you so when things unravel. You are the financial "expert" after all. It’s likely that the peanut gallery will find a way to blame the Republicans, even though they are smarter with money than the Democrats.
So you think that increasing the national debt is good?
quote:
One thing that can be blamed, however: (From Investopedia)
Perhaps you can explain why it can be blamed. The article doesn’t seem to indicate it has had much influence in the past.

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Phat
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Message 207 of 303 (908730)
03-20-2023 3:24 AM
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03-20-2023 2:11 AM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
Because its a bad theory. Im quite certain that it will unravel within 3 years at the most. I can eat crow then, if it fails to be as chaotic as I see it being. Until then I have nothing more to say.
Im not afraid to be wrong, but in this instance I am 95% certain I see the handwriting on the proverbial wall.

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Message 208 of 303 (908731)
03-20-2023 3:41 AM
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03-20-2023 3:24 AM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
quote:
Because it’s a bad theory.
Bad theories don’t cause problems just by existing. So no, you have no reason to suppose it is the problem at all.
quote:
Im not afraid to be wrong
You’re certainly not making any attempt to get it right.
This is how you show us that you know what you’re talking about?

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Tangle
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Message 209 of 303 (908734)
03-20-2023 4:33 AM
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03-20-2023 3:24 AM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
God told you that monetary theory is wrong? I guess he's playing the same Youtubes as you. And yet you're only 95% confident? Interesting.
Do you feel well?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 210 of 303 (908735)
03-20-2023 8:26 AM
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03-20-2023 4:33 AM


Re: Ex-Spurts: Drips Under Pressure
Tangle writes:
Do you feel well?
He's in the euphoric stage.
--Percy

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