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Dredge
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Message 1096 of 1197 (908664)
03-18-2023 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1068 by Taq
03-16-2023 10:46 AM


Re: Typical?
Taq writes:
We do know what happened. We have the evidence.
So you think evidence equates to knowing. Interesting logic, but what a pity it's unscientific.
Plz take the time to learn the difference between belief and knowledge.

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Dredge
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Message 1097 of 1197 (908665)
03-18-2023 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 987 by AZPaul3
03-08-2023 8:42 AM


Re: Typical?
APauling666 writes:
How do you define context?
How do you define "define"? And while you at it, how do you define "How"?

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Dredge
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Message 1098 of 1197 (908666)
03-18-2023 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1069 by Taq
03-16-2023 10:49 AM


Taq writes:
I can prove it, beyond any reasonable doubt.
That reasoning is unknown to science.

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Message 1099 of 1197 (908673)
03-19-2023 12:48 AM
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03-18-2023 10:59 PM


You're an anti-science religious cannibal and Taq was being considerate to you in using the popular vernacular version of 'prove'. He was trying to not confuse you with the bigger concepts that would hurt your brain, like 'preponderance of evidence'. But, yes, at the philosophical heart of science we know we prove nothing. That's the fun. There is always more data to collect, analyze and confound the creationists.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 1100 of 1197 (908678)
03-19-2023 4:44 AM
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03-19-2023 12:48 AM


APauling666 writes:
He was trying to not confuse you with the bigger concepts that would hurt your brain, like 'preponderance of evidence'.
Plz don't use the word "preponderance " again. It's much too big for my fragile, eggshell mind to digest and it's not even a real word. Grow up.

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Dredge
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Message 1101 of 1197 (908679)
03-19-2023 4:48 AM
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03-19-2023 12:48 AM


Science can't prove that your atheist evolution bedtime-story is true ... that's all I need to know.

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Dredge
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Message 1102 of 1197 (908680)
03-19-2023 5:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1075 by sensei
03-16-2023 6:12 PM


Re: Typical?
Don't cha just luv the the way they claim they "know" when they can't prove they "know" and all they have is a theory that supports their atheism? They're either pathologically delusional or they're liars and con-men. Either way, they're full of it.

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Dredge
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Message 1103 of 1197 (908681)
03-19-2023 5:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1078 by sensei
03-16-2023 6:26 PM


Re: Typical?
Funny one, sensei!!

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Dredge
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Message 1104 of 1197 (908682)
03-19-2023 5:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1069 by Taq
03-16-2023 10:49 AM


Taq writes:
I can prove it
You can't prove it scientifically, so stop talking like a liar and a fool.

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Dredge
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Message 1105 of 1197 (908683)
03-19-2023 5:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1069 by Taq
03-16-2023 10:49 AM


Taq writes:
If those skulls are not transitional, then please tell us what features these skulls are missing that a real transitional skull would have.
Firstly, you can't prove that any of those skulls are "transitional". They're chosen and displayed in a manner that may look transitional to some.
Secondly, please explain why none of the skeletons belonging to the non-human skulls in that image provide any evidence of being transitional. They're no closer to human than the skeletons of the non-human primates we see today. In other words, you got a huge gap between the skeletons of ancient non-human primates and those of humans.

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Dredge
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Message 1106 of 1197 (908684)
03-19-2023 5:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1072 by Taq
03-16-2023 11:01 AM


Re: Typical?
Taq writes:
For humans and most mammals, somewhere around 90-95% of the genome is junk.
Translation:
"We scientist like to claim it's 90-95% "junk" bcoz
(a) we don't know what its function is, and
(b) finding lots of "junk" DNA in genomes supports our beloved theory of evolution."

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Message 1107 of 1197 (908685)
03-19-2023 7:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1095 by Dredge
03-18-2023 10:43 PM


Re: Typical?
You're the one who reckons that science can't detect Satan. ID claims to be science. So according to you, ID cannot detect Satan, being "too puny". So it would seem to follow that if they can't detect Satan, they are not going to be able to detect God either, which rather defeats the point of ID.
According to your logic, if the ID crowd think they've detected design, it can't be God.
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On two occasions I have been asked, – "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage

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Dredge
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Message 1108 of 1197 (908687)
03-19-2023 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1107 by Granny Magda
03-19-2023 7:54 AM


Re: Typical?
Er ... yeah ... right.

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Message 1109 of 1197 (908756)
03-20-2023 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1106 by Dredge
03-19-2023 5:43 AM


Re: Typical?
Dredge writes:
Translation:
"We scientist like to claim it's 90-95% "junk" bcoz
(a) we don't know what its function is, and
(b) finding lots of "junk" DNA in genomes supports our beloved theory of evolution."
We scientists have evidence that 90-95% of the genome is junk.
a) 90-95% of the genome is accumulating mutations at a rate consistent with neutral drift.
b) The theory of evolution takes no position on how much junk DNA there should be in any given genome. The bladderwort genome has less than 5% junk DNA, and it fits in just fine with the theory.

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Message 1110 of 1197 (908757)
03-20-2023 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1105 by Dredge
03-19-2023 5:35 AM


Dredge writes:
Firstly, you can't prove that any of those skulls are "transitional".
Yes, we can. It is proven that the skulls have a mixture of features common to both humans and other apes. That makes them transitional by definition.
They're chosen and displayed in a manner that may look transitional to some.
They are arranged by their age. Thank you for confirming that they look transitional.
Secondly, please explain why none of the skeletons belonging to the non-human skulls in that image provide any evidence of being transitional.
They do have a mixture of ape and human features. They are transitional by definition.
They're no closer to human than the skeletons of the non-human primates we see today.
You already said they look transitional.
"They're chosen and displayed in a manner that may look transitional to some."
So what makes them look transitional? Please explain. What features are these skeletons missing that a real transitional would have?
Also, the pelvises are quite obviously more human-like.
Are you telling me that the two pelvises in the middle do not look more like the pelvis on the left than the pelvis on the right? Seriously?

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