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Author Topic:   Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2
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Message 605 of 1104 (908674)
03-19-2023 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 604 by AZPaul3
03-19-2023 12:34 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
Got any? Only takes one.
Angels.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 607 of 1104 (908677)
03-19-2023 1:10 AM
Reply to: Message 606 by AZPaul3
03-19-2023 12:57 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
Obtuse, obviously.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 734 of 1104 (909201)
03-29-2023 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 732 by Kleinman
03-29-2023 12:54 PM


Conman the Bullshitter writes:
Do you want me to post the definition of atheism again for you?
It's always funny when religious nutjobs, like you, try tell atheists what atheism is.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 736 of 1104 (909204)
03-29-2023 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 735 by Kleinman
03-29-2023 1:35 PM


Conman the bullshitter writes:
Tany is a perfect example of why social promotion has failed the educational system.
Says the guy who got his MD from a Caribbean diploma mill.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 738 of 1104 (909207)
03-29-2023 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 737 by Kleinman
03-29-2023 1:47 PM


Oh, boohoo, the biologists are all so mean! They hurt your poor feelings when they all said you are full of shit. You're a conman and a fraud.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 963 of 1104 (910596)
04-27-2023 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 943 by AZPaul3
04-09-2023 11:24 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
Maybe we've seen the last of him.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 969 of 1104 (912851)
10-04-2023 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 967 by sensei
10-04-2023 8:42 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
sensei in Message 967 writes:
Percy:
Do you have any examples of scientists making claims of absolute truth?
Every scientist who claims UCA is a fact, basically posts it as absolute truth, if you ask me. Do you agree on this or do you see it differently?
Dawkins does it, I think. Among many others.
You think? Please supply some references to these claims of absolute truth. Vague handwaving is not going to cut it.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 976 of 1104 (912893)
10-05-2023 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 970 by sensei
10-05-2023 4:06 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
sensei in Message 970 writes:
Let me ask you this question then.
How is this an answer to my questions?
Once again, here is the post you are responding to:
Tanypteryx writes:
sensei in Message 967 writes:
Percy:
Do you have any examples of scientists making claims of absolute truth?
Every scientist who claims UCA is a fact, basically posts it as absolute truth, if you ask me. Do you agree on this or do you see it differently?
Dawkins does it, I think. Among many others.
You think? Please supply some references to these claims of absolute truth. Vague handwaving is not going to cut it.
.
.
.
sensei in Message 970 writes:
Do you consider it to be a fact that humand and chimps share a common ancestor?
How is that an answer to my questions?
What is a humand? If you mean human, then there is a lot of evidence from genetics, paleontology, anatomy and physiology that leads to the conclusion that humans and chimps had a common ancestor.
How about you provide actual references showing Dawkins or any other scientist who "claims UCA is a fact, basically posts it as absolute truth"?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 1001 of 1104 (912966)
10-07-2023 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 999 by Theodoric
10-07-2023 12:06 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
He never seems to actually tell us anything, other than "you don't know anything." And he can't seem to grasp that we just want to see what he knows and HOW he knows it. He behaves as though our questions are attacks rather than queries.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 1004 of 1104 (912969)
10-07-2023 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1003 by Theodoric
10-07-2023 12:29 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
Yep, there quite a bit of evidence to support that!

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 1039 of 1104 (913053)
10-10-2023 1:13 AM
Reply to: Message 967 by sensei
10-04-2023 8:42 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
sensei in Message 967 writes:
Percy:
Do you have any examples of scientists making claims of absolute truth?
Every scientist who claims UCA is a fact, basically posts it as absolute truth, if you ask me. Do you agree on this or do you see it differently?
Dawkins does it, I think. Among many others.
You have been asked multiple times to provide actual references of Dawkins or any other evolutionary biologist making any claims about absolute truth, but you have completely disregarded those requests. This leads to the obvious conclusion that you just made it all up and that you have neither seen nor read any evolutionary biologists making claims about scientific conclusions being absolute truth.
If you hadn't made it up you would have shouted out the evidence and rubbed our noses in it.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 1051 of 1104 (913066)
10-10-2023 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1040 by sensei
10-10-2023 4:07 AM


Re: problems with detecting design
So, I note that you still have not answered our requests. Still not a single reference to an evolutionary biologist claiming scientific conclusions are absolute truth, and this leads to the obvious conclusion that you just made it all up.
sensei in Message 1040 writes:
The evolution theory is about evolution from a common ancestry, with UCA as most plausible, and seperate common ancestors as less likely. So yeah, most biologists see common ancestry in one version or another as fact.
The Theory of Evolution is about far more than just common ancestors. It explains the mechanisms and processes of biological evolution that we have observed in the field and laboratory.
sensei in Message 1040 writes:
How about you? Which part of evolution theory do you consider to be fact?
The observations of the processes of reproduction, genetic variability, natural selection, and descent with modification, along with millions of fossils are facts. Those observations of the processes of evolution in hundreds of thousands of species, so far, are facts. The theory explains all that data in a way that is consistent with everything we also know about chemistry and physics.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1058 of 1104 (913073)
10-10-2023 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 1055 by sensei
10-10-2023 12:15 PM


Re: problems with detecting design
sensei in Message 1055 writes:
Whatever explanations there are for evolution from common ancesters, is besides the point.
Oh I agree, here's what I actually said:
Tanypteryx in Message 1051 writes:
The Theory of Evolution is about far more than just common ancestors. It explains the mechanisms and processes of biological evolution that we have observed in the field and laboratory.
sensei in Message 1055 writes:
I can also talk about how individuals grow after birth. But what does it add?
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean here, could you explain?
sensei in Message 1055 writes:
I get that you have trouble sticking to the point. But that is really your problem.
Well, there were 2 points I was addressing:
1. I noted that you still have not answered our requests. Still not a single reference to an evolutionary biologist claiming scientific conclusions are absolute truth, and this leads to the obvious conclusion that you just made it all up.
2.
sensei in Message 1040 writes:
How about you? Which part of evolution theory do you consider to be fact?
Tanypteryx in Message 1051 writes:
The observations of the processes of reproduction, genetic variability, natural selection, and descent with modification, along with millions of fossils are facts. Those observations of the processes of evolution in hundreds of thousands of species, so far, are facts. The theory explains all that data in a way that is consistent with everything we also know about chemistry and physics.
It looks to me like I was sticking to the points by continuing to ask for your references and directly answering your question.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that it has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --Percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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