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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
nwr, are you really as ignorant as you pretend to be?
These perversions are supported by your party: theDemocrats. If you do know what your party stands for, I suggestthat you contact a politician of that party, they will be glad to tell you that I am right. The Democrats are the party that kills babies. They are the party that's thinks a man can become awoman and vice-versa. They are the party that castrates young boys andcuts of the breasts of young women. Kenyan born president Obama stated that if a babysurvives an abortion it is acceptable to place it on a back shelf and let it starve. Where is the compassion of this former Liberal president. Oh, that's right; he doesn't have any.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, you are right in that I have gotten off topic a
number of times. And, I will agree that this is a valid issue. You have accused me of not providing sources, whichI oftentimes don't. All of my Biblical sources I cite-100% of the time. You have disagreed with me concerning theSabbath Commandment; Sunday service; the nature of God; the trinity; women pastors; and, several other issues. All that you have offered as rebuttals are your opinions.According to the policies of this board, you need to cite chapter and verse. I will henceforth provide sources, but I expect you todo the same. I will provide sources for my last post, the one thatupset you so badly. After I cite my sources, I will no longer deviate fromthe topic being discussed, as long as those who reply to my posts do the same. Being that I do volunteer work at two animal shelterlocations, I will post my past sources over the next couple of days. I feel since you so stringently objected to my notproviding sources for my points of view that it would be appropriate for me to do so. I want to abide by the rules of this forum.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, it has taken me a while to get back with you, but I
have stated, I am quite busy. In reference to Obama's SSN, why are the first threenumbers (prefix) of his SS reserved for residents of Connecticut? Each state is assigned prefixes that are not shared withanother state. For Kentucky the prefix is 400-407; for Tennessee it is408-415. In Connecticut the prefix is 040-049. Obama's prefix is042. It might be that, especially since 1972, that someoneapplying for a SSN who resides in Connecticut could be issued a SSN with a Connecticut prefix. But, Obama never lived in Connecticut. It has not been shown that he ever visited Connecticutbefore running for president. Liberals who claim that Conservatives make stuff upabout the perversions in America and in our schools need to visit certain sites where the evidence is shown first-hand. Here are just a few on Youtube: @yaftv@jmesklug @thequarteting Turningpointusa-charlie kirk Matt Walsh blackconservativeperspective candaceowens amalaekpunaliunapologetic michaelknowles Personally, I don't think that you care enough to checkthese sites out(there are many more). There is a good chance (since you are a Democrat) thatyou support these perversions. In any event, I have said that as soon as I posted mesources that I would move on. I have a few more to post.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, if you really want to know what happened on
January 6, visit Tucker Carlson. He has the proof. As for titan mud fossils visit: Peru sleeping giant. Pinterest Titan mud fossils--this site will reveal hundredsof giant mud fossils. There are others, but these are enough. Perhaps, you would like to explain how they fit in withthe theory of evolution. I said that I would provide sources. I will provide other sources, as time permits.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Taq, you can rant all you want, but Conservatives know the
difference between a man and a woman. And, so do kids. Ketanji Jackson admitted that she wasn't intelligentenough to tell us "what a woman is." Your problem isn't Conservatives. It's the lack of commonsense among Democrats. It doesn't bother you that Democrats are not smart enoughto know the difference between a man and a woman. What bothers you is that Conservatives do.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
nwr, I will state again. There is no evidence that Obama
was ever in Connecticut before running for the presidency. Why does he have a Connecticut SSN?
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, this isn't a game. This is serious.
Yes, there are smart and dumb people in both partied. But, the Democrats are pushing all the wokeness. Theyare the ones telling pushing this sick transgender ideology. They are the ones pushing every anti-God policy thatis making Americans look like ignorant little kids. I used to think that you were a rather intelligentindividual, but was I wrong. You, Phat, are a hypocrite. You pretend to love God, butThe truth is that you do not even know who or what God is. From your own words, you have admitted that you do notknow whether God is one, two, or some sort of trinity. How can you claim to love God when you have no ideawhat God is? You claim that women can be pastors, but the Bible saysotherwise. Talk about being arrogant. I do not hate Democrats. I have kin and friends who areDemocrats. I hate what Democrats are doing to America. They, like you, will defend their party to the death. If I were talking this way about Conservatives, you becheering me on. I realize that I might be booted off this forum, but itdoesn't matter. It will only go to show that Democrats don't want honest debates. Another short video on YouTube: 5 "facts" About January 6th we now know are Lies. When you talk about social justice, you also meanconcepts such as white privilege and CRT. My advise for anyone who think they are privilegedbecause of their whiteness is to do the right thing and give your house and all your assets to blacks. And then shut up about it. CRT in schools are teaching black kids to hate whitekids. It teaches white kids that they should be ashamed to be white. God tells me that I am responsible for my sins, and noone else's. I am responsible for my own actions and no one else. I refuse to listen to those who don't believe this.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, many assume that the "comforter" in John 14 is a
personage before the pronoun for comforter is rendered "he." This same Spirit in Romans 8:26 is rendered "it." Each pronoun is either masculine, feminine, or neuter. The pronoun for spirit (pneuma) is neuter; therefore, it isgrammatical correct in Romans 8:26 to use it. The Word comforter (parakletos) is masculine. It is whythe pronoun "he" is grammatically correct. The pronoun has nothing to do with whether comforteris an actual person or not. The pronoun for bicycle (bicicleta) is feminine. It wouldbe correct to say "I rode my bicicleta; I rode her for hours. John 14:18 Jesus said "I will not leave you comfortless:I will come to you." Jesus is our Comforter. He comes to us through the HolySpirit. The Holy Spirit is the invisible power of the Highest. Both the Father and the Son control it. It contains the veryminds of Jesus and the Father. In that sense, it is not impersonal. In 1 John 2:1 Jesus is called our Advocate (parakletos). John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in theFather, and ye in me, and I in you." There is no mention of a third member of the God familyhere. There is just the Father, the Son, and those humans that love the Father and Jesus. John 14:21 "He that hath my Commandments, and keepsthem, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." Notice that it is Jesus who manifests Himself to us. Hedoes this through the invisible power of God, the Holy Spirit. John 14:23 "...If a man love me, he will keep my words,and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." It is the Father and Son who comforts us. They resideinside us via their Holy Spirit.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Taq, you can really be proud to be a Democrat.
27 of top 30 crime - ridden cities run by Democrats. Progressive policies that promote crime: "Ending cash bail, defunding the police, refusing toprosecute entire categories of crime, letting thousands of convicted felons out of prison early, etc..." have led to massive spikes in crime, especially violent crime. The policy of not prosecuting certain areas of crime hasled to the closing of every WalMart store in the city of Portland Oregon. WalMart could not make a profit in Portland because theDemocrat controlled city refused to prosecute shoplifters. People keep electing the same political party expectingdifferent results. Seems they never learn. I stand by my assertion that I am responsible for my ownsins/crimes. If I break the law, I should be held accountable. Thesecriminals should also be held accountable. How can a political party pat itself on the back whiledramatically increasing the rate of violent crime? If you do not believe that CRT is being taught inmany schools, it just goes to show your ignorance of what is going on around you. If you really cared, you would look into this.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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Phat, I had as rough a childhood as anyone. When I Ieft
the orphanage at the age of 18 I was not prepared for the challenges of life. For years I smoked, drank, and took drugs. I have spenttime in many jails; the longest being 6 months. I barely escaped prison several times. People did not want me in their neighborhood, and lookingback I can't blame them. I blamed everyone for my failures and shortcoming. Thisgave me an excuse for not living up to my potential. It was only after I took personal responsibility for myselfthat I was able to turn things around. My place in life was up to me and nobody else. The banks did not loan me money simply because I waswhite. Nor, did being white land me a good job. I started doing home repair with an old pickup andsecond hand tools. But, I gave my clients an honest days work for an honest dollar. Soon my name spoke For itself. There was an elderly black man and his wife that I didseveral jobs for. He was born not long after the turn of the century. Inhis day blacks were discriminated against. And, we talked about each other's lives often. We had a good deal of mutual respect for each other, and I often went by just to chat with him. He overcame by his determination, and he never allowedhis kids (he and his wife had 9) to sell themselves short, nor did he allow them to blame their failures on others. He was both a strong and good father. His kids haveturned out much like he was. Personal responsibility is what kids need to be taught. It isalmost criminal to teach them otherwise.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, all ancient pagan religions had their versions of
trinity, or triad deities. Lucifer desired to rule with the Father and Son as a trinity.He wanted to sit at the left hand of God. He could not. He, as ruler of the world, influenced all pagan religionsinto accepting this false concept. In Egypt, around 2300 BC, the triad deities consisted ofOsiris (Nimrod), Isis (Semiramis), and Horus. In Babylon these same three were known Nina's, Ishtar,and Tammuz. In Ancient Rome Jupiter, juno, and Minervo. In Ancient Greece Zeus, Hades, and posed on. The Ancient roots of Hinduism, after the 6th Century BCfeatured the 3 in 1 God Trimurti. Brahman consisted of Brahma-creator, Vishnu-preserver,and Shiva-destroyer. What the Great Religions Believe, Joseph Gaer p.25. & Exploring Ancient History - The First 2500 Years, ch 11, 24. The years from 70 AD to 170 AD in church history isvirtually blank. This age is known as the "Age of Shadows." When the curtains are drawn back we see a church thatis much different from the one the Apostles described. Iniquity was already influencing the church during thetime of Paul and John. Read 2Thessalonians 27; 2Corinthians 11: 13-15;1John 4:1; Jude 3; a d 3John 9-10 to name a few. The term trinity is soaked in paganism.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dredge, there are several aspects to these verses. And, I
will have to text them in several posts. I will try to text them all today. I am texting this on my break. First of all, Jesus was worthy of worship. There are manyexamples of people worshipping Him in the NT. The angel prevented John from worshipping him becausehe was not worthy of worship Just a few examples of Jesus being worshipped duringhis earthly ministry. Notice that Jesus accepted worship. Matthew 8:2; 9:18; 14:33; 15:25; 28:17.John 9:28; 20:28. Genesis 3:15 (in layman terms) states that a seed ofEve's would defeat Satan. Satan knew this prediction, and knew it well. He dideverything in his power to prevent the birth of this seed. He tried, through King Herod, to have the child killed. Read the 2nd chapter of Matthew.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dredge, Jesus is the member of the God family that
created everything, both seen and unseen. He even created all angelic beings, including Satan himself. John 1:3,10; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17. The demons who possessed the two individuals inMatthew 8:28-29 knew who Jesus.was. They cried out to Jesus "what have we to do with thee,Jesus, thou Son of God? Are thou come hither to torment us before the time?" And, Satan most certainly knew who had created him. After Christ had been baptized and started His ministry,Satan clearly understood that he must find a way to disqualify Jesus from replacing him as ruler of the world. The only way Satan could do this was by causing Jesusto sin. Satan most certainly believed that it was possible for Jesus to sin. Jesus, who was a physical being was subject to the sameneeds that the rest of humanity is subject to. He was surrounded by powerful angels who come to Hisdefense if required, but He could have sinned. Jesus prayed to His Father constantly. He relied onstrength from His Father to keep Him from sinning. If Jesus had sinned, even once, humans would not havea sacrifice for the death penalty. We would remain dead for all eternity. Jesus most certainly knew that He was capable ofsinning. Before He was to be tempted by Satan Jesus fastedfor 40 days-He ate nothing. He prayed constantly the entire time. His challenge wasto be the most important challenge in all of history. There was no reason for Him to so thoroughly prepareHimself if it were impossible for Him to sin.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZ, the one-legged Ahab thought that he was cool until
he came upon some titan mud fossils. Then he kind of slunk away. The one-legged man could not explain how they fit intohis misguided paradigm.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tanzypteryx, you cannot dispose of the evidence. You
can wish it away with all your might, but if you stick to your misguided theory of evolution then you must explain how they fit in. Good luck.
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