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Message 1040 of 1864 (905288)
01-22-2023 11:43 AM
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01-22-2023 9:39 AM


Re: The Limitations Of Good And Evil Behaviors
Im not sure I agree with your attempt to frame the argument.
I'm taking that as your way of conceding that you don't have a good answer.

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Message 1041 of 1864 (905289)
01-22-2023 12:07 PM
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01-22-2023 11:11 AM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
TE's dismiss the first eleven chapters of Genesis.
No, they don't. They take those chapters as theological but not historical.
Do TE's think that Jesus and the Apostles were lying, or
making stuff up.
Why do you assume that Jesus and the apostles were mindless mechanical robots? Why not assume that they were fully human, and made allusions to well known stories just as humans do today?

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Message 1052 of 1864 (905305)
01-22-2023 4:15 PM
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01-22-2023 1:14 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
However, they were filled with God's Holy Spirit. And they
lived with Jesus for over three years.
You seem to be suggesting that being filled with "God's Holy Spirit" turns people into mindless robotic zombies.
Here's the real point. You are trying to argue that what they said shows that Adam and Eve were real people. It doesn't. People often talk about fictional characters without mentioning that they are fictional. Such talk is not evidence that Adam and Eve were real people. It is only evidence that their story was well known.
There are many Christians, not just TEs, who take the early part of Genesis to be allegorical. That's a well respected view within Christianity.

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Message 1055 of 1864 (905308)
01-22-2023 5:11 PM
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01-22-2023 5:02 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
The Holy Bible, as well as Jesus, says they were
real.
False. That's an interpretation that you are reading into it.

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Message 1190 of 1864 (906386)
02-11-2023 11:59 AM
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02-11-2023 9:34 AM


Re: The Limitations Of Good And Evil Behaviors
Phat, I am not a preacher.
That was the first sentence in a post that was full of preaching.

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Message 1324 of 1864 (907027)
02-18-2023 1:20 PM
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02-18-2023 10:36 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
I perused the comments from some who have read the book over at Goodreads. I can see why you and Theo would enjoy such a book. It pokes fun at human attempts to mae everything "official" all for the Great Power in which they reside. I might actually read the book if I get time, but its no authoritative History Book except to reinforce one of your entrenched beliefs that humans created religion.
You mentioned "1066" which is a memorable date for those who have studied British history. It was the date of the battle of Hastings. The book you refer to, "1066 and all that" is a humor book. It is not intended as history. Growing up in Australia, we were soaked in British history, and "1066 and all that" was a lot of fun. The book is not about whether humans created religion. It's about making fun of history.
Maybe I should make it clear that this was not a history book used in school. It was a humor book that I read after graduating.
However, there is a book which convinced me that humans created religion. That book goes by the title "The Holy Bible".

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Message 1344 of 1864 (907067)
02-18-2023 4:30 PM
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02-18-2023 1:45 PM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
Does that lie of his Christ status make a diference to yopu?
It doesn't matter to me. But perhaps it matters to Phat.

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Message 1386 of 1864 (907179)
02-19-2023 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1382 by Dredge
02-19-2023 11:45 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
... what's Christian about Gnosticism?
What's Christian about Christianity?

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Message 1404 of 1864 (907413)
02-23-2023 12:01 PM
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02-23-2023 1:53 AM


Re: Evidently Anglicans dont believe in the Trinity
Yet without Jesus, there would be no Christianity.
As ringo frequently reminds you, it seems that you manage to be a Christian without Jesus.

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Message 1409 of 1864 (907469)
02-24-2023 9:44 AM
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02-24-2023 8:23 AM


Re: Evidently Anglicans dont believe in the Trinity
nwr, what Ringo thinks about the factuality of Jesus'
existence carries no weight.
You missed the point. I wasn't talking about the existence of Jesus. Rather, it was about Phat not doing what Jesus taught.

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Message 1425 of 1864 (907778)
02-28-2023 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1424 by candle2
02-28-2023 10:18 AM


Re: The Meaning Of The Trinity
Democrats say it is perfectly acceptable for a
woman to murder her own baby.
Bullshit.
Democrats say it is perfectly acceptable for a
man to turn into to a woman and for a woman to turn
into a man.
More bullshit. Many Democrats are critical of what trans activists are pushing.

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Message 1427 of 1864 (907794)
02-28-2023 1:20 PM
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02-28-2023 1:10 PM


Re: The Meaning Of The Trinity
The Democrats also support murder of their own
children.
That still more bullshit.
I will never vote
for a candidate or a party that supports an agenda that
is contrary to God.
Whenever you vote Republican, you do just that.
Did you support the Black national anthem at the Super
Bowl.
I paid no attention to the Super Bowl.

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Message 1430 of 1864 (907809)
02-28-2023 3:50 PM
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02-28-2023 3:22 PM


Re: The Meaning Of The Trinity
Your holy book says something about bearing false witness. Yet here you are violating that commandment by spreading malicious lies.

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Message 1444 of 1864 (908370)
03-13-2023 2:33 PM
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03-13-2023 9:57 AM


Re: Burning The CIt has not been shown that he ever visited Connectandle At Both Ends
It has not been shown that he ever visited Connecticut
before running for president.
He studied at Yale University, which is in Connecticut.
Where do you get your misinformation?

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Message 1692 of 1864 (910001)
04-14-2023 2:34 PM
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04-14-2023 1:47 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Thankfully, the Church hierarchy has also developed a prejudice against queers - my understanding is that homosexuals are now barred from becoming priests and religious ("holy orders").

As long as they maintain their celibacy requirement, they will continue to have this problem.

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