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PaulK
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Message 4 of 152 (908016)
03-05-2023 9:47 AM
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03-04-2023 12:07 PM


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I am completely ignorant when it comes to AI. I listened to this talk by Jordon Peterson and I find it chilling
I doubt that Jordan Peterson knows any better than you. ChatGPT is not an AI, it just embodies some techniques from AI research, while lacking any real intelligence.
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ChatGPT can apparently produce university quality papers in 3 seconds on pretty much any subject you can name
Can it? Some have looked at its output and disagreed:
ACOUP
In a very real sense then, ChatGPT cannot write an essay. It can imitate an essay, but because it is incapable of the tasks which give an essay its actual use value (original thought and analysis), it can only produce inferior copies of other writing.
On an actual essay produced by ChatGPT:
Exact counting here will vary but I identified 38 factual claims, of which 7 were correct, 7 were badly distorted and 24 were simply wrong. A trainwreck this bad would absolutely have me meeting with a student and raising questions which – if the paper was machine written – might be very hard for the student to answer.
Add to that ChatGPT’s tendency to invent sources and it really isn’t something any college student should risk using.

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Message 30 of 152 (910576)
04-27-2023 6:00 AM
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04-27-2023 5:25 AM


Re: Is there any longer a point to arguing that there's no real AI out there?
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Chat GPT is able to make rational arguments.
It is able to produce rational arguments. Or complete bullshit arguments. It can’t tell the difference.
See Maths versus AI (it can do better with other problems but it flubbed that one badly).
See also the discussion of AI essay writing linked in my earlier post Message 4

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Message 32 of 152 (910578)
04-27-2023 6:21 AM
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04-27-2023 6:08 AM


Re: Is there any longer a point to arguing that there's no real AI out there?
Did you read the post? It’s the failures in reasoning that are the issue.

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PaulK
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Message 34 of 152 (910582)
04-27-2023 6:32 AM
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04-27-2023 6:30 AM


Re: Is there any longer a point to arguing that there's no real AI out there?
My point is that it makes these errors because it has no understanding. And it will not spontaneously realise its mistake either. It cannot. It is not truly intelligent.

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Message 55 of 152 (910680)
05-05-2023 1:47 AM
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05-04-2023 5:23 PM


Re: It's Mass Delusion
You make it sound like a racist misogynistic tyranny is a bad thing.

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