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Message 1429 of 1864 (907806)
02-28-2023 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1427 by nwr
02-28-2023 1:20 PM


Re: The Meaning Of The Trinity
nwr, are you really as ignorant as you pretend to be?
These perversions are supported by your party: the
Democrats.
If you do know what your party stands for, I suggest
that you contact a politician of that party, they will be
glad to tell you that I am right.
The Democrats are the party that kills babies.
They are the party that's thinks a man can become a
woman and vice-versa.
They are the party that castrates young boys and
cuts of the breasts of young women.
Kenyan born president Obama stated that if a baby
survives an abortion it is acceptable to place it on a
back shelf and let it starve.
Where is the compassion of this former Liberal president.
Oh, that's right; he doesn't have any.

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Message 1436 of 1864 (907953)
03-03-2023 10:27 AM
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02-28-2023 4:41 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Phat, you are right in that I have gotten off topic a
number of times.
And, I will agree that this is a valid issue.
You have accused me of not providing sources, which
I oftentimes don't.
All of my Biblical sources I cite-100% of the time.
You have disagreed with me concerning the
Sabbath Commandment; Sunday service; the
nature of God; the trinity; women pastors; and,
several other issues.
All that you have offered as rebuttals are your opinions.
According to the policies of this board, you need to
cite chapter and verse.
I will henceforth provide sources, but I expect you to
do the same.
I will provide sources for my last post, the one that
upset you so badly.
After I cite my sources, I will no longer deviate from
the topic being discussed, as long as those who
reply to my posts do the same.
Being that I do volunteer work at two animal shelter
locations, I will post my past sources over the next
couple of days.
I feel since you so stringently objected to my not
providing sources for my points of view that it
would be appropriate for me to do so.
I want to abide by the rules of this forum.

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Message 1441 of 1864 (908365)
03-13-2023 9:57 AM
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02-28-2023 4:41 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Phat, it has taken me a while to get back with you, but I
have stated, I am quite busy.
In reference to Obama's SSN, why are the first three
numbers (prefix) of his SS reserved for residents of
Connecticut?
Each state is assigned prefixes that are not shared with
another state.
For Kentucky the prefix is 400-407; for Tennessee it is
408-415.
In Connecticut the prefix is 040-049. Obama's prefix is
042.
It might be that, especially since 1972, that someone
applying for a SSN who resides in Connecticut could be
issued a SSN with a Connecticut prefix. But, Obama never
lived in Connecticut.
It has not been shown that he ever visited Connecticut
before running for president.
Liberals who claim that Conservatives make stuff up
about the perversions in America and in our schools
need to visit certain sites where the evidence is shown
first-hand.
Here are just a few on Youtube:
@yaftv
@jmesklug
@thequarteting
Turningpointusa-charlie kirk
Matt Walsh
blackconservativeperspective
candaceowens
amalaekpunaliunapologetic
michaelknowles
Personally, I don't think that you care enough to check
these sites out(there are many more).
There is a good chance (since you are a Democrat) that
you support these perversions.
In any event, I have said that as soon as I posted me
sources that I would move on. I have a few more to post.

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Message 1446 of 1864 (908376)
03-13-2023 6:23 PM
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02-28-2023 4:41 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Phat, if you really want to know what happened on
January 6, visit Tucker Carlson. He has the proof.
As for titan mud fossils visit:
Peru sleeping giant.
Pinterest Titan mud fossils--this site will reveal hundreds
of giant mud fossils.
There are others, but these are enough.
Perhaps, you would like to explain how they fit in with
the theory of evolution.
I said that I would provide sources.
I will provide other sources, as time permits.

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Message 1447 of 1864 (908377)
03-13-2023 6:34 PM
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03-13-2023 10:54 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Taq, you can rant all you want, but Conservatives know the
difference between a man and a woman. And, so do
kids.
Ketanji Jackson admitted that she wasn't intelligent
enough to tell us "what a woman is."
Your problem isn't Conservatives. It's the lack of common
sense among Democrats.
It doesn't bother you that Democrats are not smart enough
to know the difference between a man and a woman.
What bothers you is that Conservatives do.

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Message 1448 of 1864 (908378)
03-13-2023 6:50 PM
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03-13-2023 2:33 PM


Re: Burning The CIt has not been shown that he ever visited Connectandle At Both Ends
nwr, I will state again. There is no evidence that Obama
was ever in Connecticut before running for the presidency.
Why does he have a Connecticut SSN?

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Message 1456 of 1864 (908417)
03-14-2023 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1453 by Phat
03-14-2023 9:12 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Phat, this isn't a game. This is serious.
Yes, there are smart and dumb people in both partied.
But, the Democrats are pushing all the wokeness. They
are the ones telling pushing this sick transgender
ideology.
They are the ones pushing every anti-God policy that
is making Americans look like ignorant little kids.
I used to think that you were a rather intelligent
individual, but was I wrong.
You, Phat, are a hypocrite. You pretend to love God, but
The truth is that you do not even know who or what God
is.
From your own words, you have admitted that you do not
know whether God is one, two, or some sort of trinity.
How can you claim to love God when you have no idea
what God is?
You claim that women can be pastors, but the Bible says
otherwise. Talk about being arrogant.
I do not hate Democrats. I have kin and friends who are
Democrats. I hate what Democrats are doing to America.
They, like you, will defend their party to the death.
If I were talking this way about Conservatives, you be
cheering me on.
I realize that I might be booted off this forum, but it
doesn't matter. It will only go to show that Democrats
don't want honest debates.
Another short video on YouTube:
5 "facts" About January 6th we now know are Lies.
When you talk about social justice, you also mean
concepts such as white privilege and CRT.
My advise for anyone who think they are privileged
because of their whiteness is to do the right thing
and give your house and all your assets to blacks.
And then shut up about it.
CRT in schools are teaching black kids to hate white
kids. It teaches white kids that they should be ashamed
to be white.
God tells me that I am responsible for my sins, and no
one else's. I am responsible for my own actions and no
one else.
I refuse to listen to those who don't believe this.

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Message 1457 of 1864 (908428)
03-15-2023 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1453 by Phat
03-14-2023 9:12 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Phat, many assume that the "comforter" in John 14 is a
personage before the pronoun for comforter is rendered
"he."
This same Spirit in Romans 8:26 is rendered "it."
Each pronoun is either masculine, feminine, or neuter.
The pronoun for spirit (pneuma) is neuter; therefore, it is
grammatical correct in Romans 8:26 to use it.
The Word comforter (parakletos) is masculine. It is why
the pronoun "he" is grammatically correct.
The pronoun has nothing to do with whether comforter
is an actual person or not.
The pronoun for bicycle (bicicleta) is feminine. It would
be correct to say "I rode my bicicleta; I rode her for hours.
John 14:18 Jesus said "I will not leave you comfortless:
I will come to you."
Jesus is our Comforter. He comes to us through the Holy
Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the invisible power of the Highest.
Both the Father and the Son control it. It contains the very
minds of Jesus and the Father. In that sense, it is not
impersonal.
In 1 John 2:1 Jesus is called our Advocate (parakletos).
John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in the
Father, and ye in me, and I in you."
There is no mention of a third member of the God family
here. There is just the Father, the Son, and those humans
that love the Father and Jesus.
John 14:21 "He that hath my Commandments, and keeps
them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be
loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest
myself to him."
Notice that it is Jesus who manifests Himself to us. He
does this through the invisible power of God, the Holy
Spirit.
John 14:23 "...If a man love me, he will keep my words,
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him."
It is the Father and Son who comforts us. They reside
inside us via their Holy Spirit.

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Message 1463 of 1864 (908507)
03-16-2023 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1458 by Taq
03-15-2023 11:28 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Taq, you can really be proud to be a Democrat.
27 of top 30 crime - ridden cities run by Democrats.
Progressive policies that promote crime:
"Ending cash bail, defunding the police, refusing to
prosecute entire categories of crime, letting thousands
of convicted felons out of prison early, etc..." have led to
massive spikes in crime, especially violent crime.
The policy of not prosecuting certain areas of crime has
led to the closing of every WalMart store in the city of
Portland Oregon.
WalMart could not make a profit in Portland because the
Democrat controlled city refused to prosecute shoplifters.
People keep electing the same political party expecting
different results. Seems they never learn.
I stand by my assertion that I am responsible for my own
sins/crimes.
If I break the law, I should be held accountable. These
criminals should also be held accountable.
How can a political party pat itself on the back while
dramatically increasing the rate of violent crime?
If you do not believe that CRT is being taught in
many schools, it just goes to show your ignorance of
what is going on around you.
If you really cared, you would look into this.

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Message 1470 of 1864 (908547)
03-16-2023 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1468 by Phat
03-16-2023 1:48 PM


Re: Woke As A Joke?
Phat, I had as rough a childhood as anyone. When I Ieft
the orphanage at the age of 18 I was not prepared for
the challenges of life.
For years I smoked, drank, and took drugs. I have spent
time in many jails; the longest being 6 months. I barely
escaped prison several times.
People did not want me in their neighborhood, and looking
back I can't blame them.
I blamed everyone for my failures and shortcoming. This
gave me an excuse for not living up to my potential.
It was only after I took personal responsibility for myself
that I was able to turn things around. My place in life was
up to me and nobody else.
The banks did not loan me money simply because I was
white. Nor, did being white land me a good job.
I started doing home repair with an old pickup and
second hand tools. But, I gave my clients an honest
days work for an honest dollar. Soon my name spoke
For itself.
There was an elderly black man and his wife that I did
several jobs for.
He was born not long after the turn of the century. In
his day blacks were discriminated against. And, we
talked about each other's lives often. We had a good
deal of mutual respect for each other, and I often went
by just to chat with him.
He overcame by his determination, and he never allowed
his kids (he and his wife had 9) to sell themselves short,
nor did he allow them to blame their failures on others.
He was both a strong and good father. His kids have
turned out much like he was.
Personal responsibility is what kids need to be taught. It is
almost criminal to teach them otherwise.

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Message 1474 of 1864 (908652)
03-18-2023 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1459 by Phat
03-15-2023 11:59 AM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Phat, all ancient pagan religions had their versions of
trinity, or triad deities.
Lucifer desired to rule with the Father and Son as a trinity.
He wanted to sit at the left hand of God. He could not.
He, as ruler of the world, influenced all pagan religions
into accepting this false concept.
In Egypt, around 2300 BC, the triad deities consisted of
Osiris (Nimrod), Isis (Semiramis), and Horus.
In Babylon these same three were known Nina's, Ishtar,
and Tammuz.
In Ancient Rome Jupiter, juno, and Minervo.
In Ancient Greece Zeus, Hades, and posed on.
The Ancient roots of Hinduism, after the 6th Century BC
featured the 3 in 1 God Trimurti.
Brahman consisted of Brahma-creator, Vishnu-preserver,
and Shiva-destroyer.
What the Great Religions Believe, Joseph Gaer p.25.
&
Exploring Ancient History - The First 2500 Years, ch 11, 24.
The years from 70 AD to 170 AD in church history is
virtually blank.
This age is known as the "Age of Shadows."
When the curtains are drawn back we see a church that
is much different from the one the Apostles described.
Iniquity was already influencing the church during the
time of Paul and John.
Read 2Thessalonians 27; 2Corinthians 11: 13-15;
1John 4:1; Jude 3; a d 3John 9-10 to name a few.
The term trinity is soaked in paganism.

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Message 1480 of 1864 (908764)
03-20-2023 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1477 by Dredge
03-18-2023 10:17 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge, there are several aspects to these verses. And, I
will have to text them in several posts. I will try to text them
all today. I am texting this on my break.
First of all, Jesus was worthy of worship. There are many
examples of people worshipping Him in the NT.
The angel prevented John from worshipping him because
he was not worthy of worship
Just a few examples of Jesus being worshipped during
his earthly ministry. Notice that Jesus accepted worship.
Matthew 8:2; 9:18; 14:33; 15:25; 28:17.
John 9:28; 20:28.
Genesis 3:15 (in layman terms) states that a seed of
Eve's would defeat Satan.
Satan knew this prediction, and knew it well. He did
everything in his power to prevent the birth of this seed.
He tried, through King Herod, to have the child killed.
Read the 2nd chapter of Matthew.

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Message 1483 of 1864 (908777)
03-20-2023 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1477 by Dredge
03-18-2023 10:17 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Dredge, Jesus is the member of the God family that
created everything, both seen and unseen. He even
created all angelic beings, including Satan himself.
John 1:3,10; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17.
The demons who possessed the two individuals in
Matthew 8:28-29 knew who Jesus.was.
They cried out to Jesus "what have we to do with thee,
Jesus, thou Son of God? Are thou come hither to torment
us before the time?"
And, Satan most certainly knew who had created him.
After Christ had been baptized and started His ministry,
Satan clearly understood that he must find a way to
disqualify Jesus from replacing him as ruler of the world.
The only way Satan could do this was by causing Jesus
to sin. Satan most certainly believed that it was possible
for Jesus to sin.
Jesus, who was a physical being was subject to the same
needs that the rest of humanity is subject to.
He was surrounded by powerful angels who come to His
defense if required, but He could have sinned.
Jesus prayed to His Father constantly. He relied on
strength from His Father to keep Him from sinning.
If Jesus had sinned, even once, humans would not have
a sacrifice for the death penalty. We would remain dead
for all eternity.
Jesus most certainly knew that He was capable of
sinning.
Before He was to be tempted by Satan Jesus fasted
for 40 days-He ate nothing.
He prayed constantly the entire time. His challenge was
to be the most important challenge in all of history.
There was no reason for Him to so thoroughly prepare
Himself if it were impossible for Him to sin.

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Message 1489 of 1864 (908808)
03-20-2023 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1486 by AZPaul3
03-20-2023 2:00 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
AZ, the one-legged Ahab thought that he was cool until
he came upon some titan mud fossils.
Then he kind of slunk away.
The one-legged man could not explain how they fit into
his misguided paradigm.

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Message 1501 of 1864 (908911)
03-23-2023 12:52 PM
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03-20-2023 5:28 PM


Re: Burning The Candle At Both Ends
Tanzypteryx, you cannot dispose of the evidence. You
can wish it away with all your might, but if you stick to
your misguided theory of evolution then you must
explain how they fit in.
Good luck.

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