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Phat
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Message 1 of 10 (904443)
12-30-2022 6:50 AM


Amazing, Honest, and full of positive energy
I always admire youth. Strong, agile, Emanating inner dynamic (and spiritual) energy!...
None are more captivating than the members of a traveling dance troupe called Shen Yun.
Three of them captivated my interest through a YouTube video channel called The Three Musketeers.
How a Shen Yun dancer choreographs a dance | 3 Musketeers
The dancers are so beautiful and funny! Honest and real....these Falun Dafa philosophers and missionaries are no zombies. They have a message of hope and inspiration for the world!
They are not allowed to tour China. The freedom of ideas and expression is a threat to that regime. We are glad to have them here in America, however.
How Do You Warm Up For The Show?
Has anyone seen the performance?
Add By Edit: I've now seen two shows here in Denver.

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Message 2 of 10 (905049)
01-15-2023 9:58 AM
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Re: Amazing, Honest, and full of positive energy
I'm hooked. I wrote the Dance Troupe a letter. They have my respect and admiration.
Here is more from them.(recent videos)
Behind the Scenes | 3Musketeers

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 4 of 10 (905060)
01-16-2023 8:35 AM
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01-15-2023 9:13 PM


Re: Amazing, Honest, and full of positive energy
On a whim, I just bought a ticket for next week! (Thanks for alerting me, by the way...I owe you one, kj )
Stay tuned for my review!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 5 of 10 (906639)
02-15-2023 7:00 AM
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Re: Amazing, Honest, and full of positive energy
I saw the show! January 24th has come and gone and I allowed myself to experience the fruits of the disciplined and focused Shen Yun dancers. The art was performed flawlessly through countless hours of disciplined practice and lifestyle. (I know that I sound like a walking advertisement for the troupes, but I am really impressed with these ageless young people. Three of the males have a vlog . William is the elder I believe, and isn't it amazing how young they all look!
I think William is 30ish, and Sam and Jisung are in their early twenties. If they didn't have families already I would adopt them, but I would likely feel ashamed to have sons who were more disciplined than I am.
Now, as a Christian, I will discuss the discipline they practice while they learn traditional Chinese Dance. I bought the same book that they use(Zhuan Falun) to study and meditate every day. Though many Christians would disagree, I strongly believe that Jesus approves!
We share the same Spirit. Falun Dafa and Christianity also share the same persecution from the CCP in Mainland China. The State Church is allowed to exist, yet both the Falun Dafa and the genuine Christians are persecuted by the government for many made-up "crimes". All that is happening is that These philosophies are thwarting the plans of the CCP to establish a state sanctioned personality cult which essentially worships Chairman Xi Jinping.
China’s Xi promises to build ‘great wall of steel’ in rivalry with West Anyone with a brain can see the conflict as it really is.
Washington Post:
With the founding of the Communist Party of China … and after a century of struggle, our national humiliation has been erased, and the Chinese people have become the masters of their own destiny,” Xi told the 3,000 or so delegates in the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, red flags behind him. He was referring to the period until the early 20th century when China was carved up by colonial powers, a time Beijing calls the “century of humiliation” and promises will never be repeated.
“The Chinese nation’s great revival is on an irreversible path,” Xi said.

As both Christians and Falun Dafa know, humans get in trouble by "imagining their own destiny". The subtle difference is that for us, the only "great leader" and teacher is the Creator of all seen and unseen. God gives us our wisdom, our strength, our compassion, love, and ability to tolerate a world full of secular evil.
Granted, my critics here at EvC will likely argue that humans should imagine their own destiny. Respectfully, I disagree. I only wish I was as fit and strong as the young up and coming teachers and missionaries from Shen Yun. At age 63, my mind is sharp but my physical body as seen better days!

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Message 6 of 10 (907478)
02-24-2023 11:15 AM


Another Great Dance Video
I'm also reading their meditation book. Zhuan Falun.
I will quote from it here as I become better acquainted with the philosophy.
You guys can't tell me I'm not open-minded. I am taking an entirely unique philosophy apart from the Christianity I know and giving it a fair study.

  
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Message 7 of 10 (907630)
02-27-2023 9:55 AM


All For One & One For All
The Three Musketeers, Will, Jisung and Sam now have a girl counterpart.
Get ready! The 3 Musketeers: Girl version has arrived!
There is a story behind the passion that drives Shen Yun. Of course, each Dance Troupe member is an individual in their own right....they are not a cult and they are not dance zombies. They are wonderfully disciplined young men and women who follow a philosophy which emphasizes positive spiritual disciplines and characteristics that any of us would do well to model. Watching the vlogs and seeing the personal expressiveness and honesty voiced by the artist/dancers themselves, I am solidly behind them. Of course I am in love with all of them so I could be a bit biased!

  
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Message 8 of 10 (907855)
03-01-2023 8:20 AM


Characters From Classical Chinese Dance
Their philosophy?
The world needs :
- Truthfulness 真
- Compassion 善
- Forbearance 忍
I'm with them! The CCP needs to go! If China were as mellow as Taiwan I would have no problem with them(China) becoming the next great Superpower. With the 90 million strong CCP in charge, I will oppose them at every level. Global Communism is just plain evil. And I dare any of you to make a counterargument!

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Message 9 of 10 (907856)
03-01-2023 8:49 AM
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01-15-2023 9:13 PM


Saw the Troupe again on March 9th
Recently, I had the blessed opportunity to see the Troupe (or one of 8 that travels globally) come to Denver again...this time at our Buell Theatre. The 2 hour performance is made up of 15 skits, narrated by two bi-lingual announcers. These skits all teach lessons gleaned from a 5000 year History of classical Chinese Dance.
When I get time, and as i read the philosophy of these courageous freedom loving (humble) dancers, I will explain what I got out of each of the skits. Having seen them twice, I now remember the skits well.
I highly recommend the show.

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Message 10 of 10 (908363)
03-13-2023 8:34 AM
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Re: Characters From Classical Chinese Dance
To reiterate:
Their philosophy?
The world needs :
- Truthfulness 真
- Compassion 善
- Forbearance 忍
Lets break down what these terms mean to me.
Truthfulness: I try to be honest every day. Granted, as many of you know, i often get caught up in the trappings of our modern day life. I eat the wrong things, I satiate my flesh rather than disciplining my spirit, and I occasionally take a few cheap verbal shots at some of you...though having been at this forum since 2003, I know all of you to the limits of what you post. For those of you who pray, please pray that I seek honesty above the cult of personality and that I debate and discuss issues honestly with each of you. We may disagree, but according to Forum Guidelines we should at least respect one another.
Compassion --I need more compassion! I tend to be greedy, selfish, arrogant, ignorant, and biased. As I grow as a person, my goal is to pray more for each of you than I do for myself. The world does NOT revolve around me.
Now...I have to look up Forbearance 忍 .
Got Questions:
Forbearance is a word found mostly in the King James Version of the Bible. It has two meanings. One is to delay repayment of a debt, as in “The borrowers requested forbearance until they could provide the proper documents.” In the Bible, however, forbearance usually refers to a godly character trait. To forbear is to abstain or hold back; forbearance is akin to patience and self-control. Colossians 3:12–13 is one example: “Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another” (KJV). The New Living Translation words it this way: “Make allowance for each other’s faults, and forgive anyone who offends you.”
God shows forbearance in that He holds back the judgment the world deserves: “Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance, and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?” (Romans 2:4, KJV). In this instance, forbearance refers to God’s mercy, kindness, and longsuffering in delaying rightful judgment.

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The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
God alone is God
but
God is not alone
~Ellis Potter
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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