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Message 1361 of 1864 (907128)
02-19-2023 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1359 by Dredge
02-19-2023 9:26 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
Your lack of basic knowledge an poor childish delivery is why I will ignore you.
Regards
DL

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Message 1373 of 1864 (907142)
02-19-2023 10:29 AM
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02-19-2023 9:51 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
Equality is downsizing religions, as parents refuse to downsize their love for an LGBTQ+ or female child.
Premise ---
Parents want to love their LGBTQ+ kids without prejudice or negative discrimination.
I see Christianity and all religiosity shrinking. Churches closing, etc, while new Temples and Mosques of the wisdom seeking genre, --- as opposed to God seeker, --- are popping up to replace the God seeker religions.
This intelligent trend is to put humans and universality and inclusion over the Gods we have created, --- is nice to see as it returns us to a modernized version of the ancient and better days.
Demographics and stats are clear that the God religions of today will either have to adapt to a more secular view, --- and especially stop preaching --- that a parent has to downsize their love for a LGBTQ+ child.
Gnostic Christianity and Laïcité are the future, as we already disavow such vile evil.
We curse words like --- and the men are a degree above them [women] and he will rule over you [women], etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJvktEcf87A
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DL

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Message 1374 of 1864 (907143)
02-19-2023 10:34 AM
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02-19-2023 10:05 AM


Re: Ignorance Is Diss
Think of your salvation of your mind.
Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught. Put man above God.
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Allan Watts explains those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw
Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU
The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.
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DL

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Message 1399 of 1864 (907407)
02-23-2023 11:26 AM
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02-19-2023 11:45 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
"what's Christian about Gnosticism?"
Nothing.
There is something about Gnostic Christianity and Christianity.
There can be Gnostic to any religion or belief system.
There are Gnostic Muslims and atheists.
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DL

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Message 1400 of 1864 (907408)
02-23-2023 11:30 AM
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02-19-2023 11:49 AM


Re: Ignorance Is Diss
Lies.
Look again for the first time.
We were the well respected intelligentsia before the dimmer believers in the supernatural screwed up the religion.
I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.
What is God? - Big Think
Further.
Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS
Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."
Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.
"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."
Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&l...
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DL

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Message 1401 of 1864 (907409)
02-23-2023 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1384 by Dredge
02-19-2023 11:53 AM


Re: Mind Over Matter ©
I quoted the bible.
Is it as much of garbage as Watts?
If you like, I can quote your bible telling us that the Christian theology is week and to make it stronger and that if you want to grow your thinking, you have to get knowledge elsewhere.
I am sure you have read it.
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DL

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Message 1402 of 1864 (907410)
02-23-2023 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1389 by Dredge
02-21-2023 4:24 PM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
Do you find it strange that God gave Satan extra powers of deception to use against us and made her our ruler?
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DL

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Message 1403 of 1864 (907411)
02-23-2023 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1395 by Phat
02-23-2023 1:53 AM


Re: Evidently Anglicans dont believe in the Trinity
Check your history buddy.
Chrestianity was around before Christianity and much of their writings were plagiarized by the biblical scribes.
Regards
DL

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Message 1411 of 1864 (907526)
02-25-2023 9:32 AM
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02-24-2023 8:32 AM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
That was not my question.
Why do you deflect from moral questions and give garbage for an answer?
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DL

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Message 1412 of 1864 (907527)
02-25-2023 9:33 AM
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02-24-2023 8:34 AM


Re: Mind Over Matter ©
Really?
You have not read Revelation?
Regards
DL

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Message 1413 of 1864 (907528)
02-25-2023 9:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1410 by Phat
02-24-2023 10:18 AM


Re: Evidently Anglicans dont believe in the Trinity
If you are to believe your bible, do you believe in the real talking serpents and donkeys it speaks of as well?
Regards
DL

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Message 1417 of 1864 (907539)
02-25-2023 10:46 AM
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02-25-2023 10:06 AM


Re: Trin Trinity Trin Trinity Trin Trin Teree ©
You were deflecting and now justifying.
What a waste of time you have become.
Regards
DL

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Message 1422 of 1864 (907617)
02-26-2023 5:20 PM
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02-25-2023 4:01 PM


Re: Greatest He Is ©
Now hiding behind another concept. Communion.
You cannot even know what that word would mean to a supernatural God.
Whatever your doing with God, get him to work harder.
Regards
DL

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Message 1423 of 1864 (907618)
02-26-2023 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1419 by candle2
02-26-2023 7:57 AM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
The notion that a travelling preacher would not have female disciples is only proposed by the ill read.
Your whole premise failed a long time ago. Check the library from any scholar. I like what Elaine Pagels says.
One thing you might answer me, given you ignored my questions for your strange conclusions on my mother, what would Jesus say to my little rendering.
Christians never want to talk about it. Off topic but -----
On Jesus dying for Christians, from a moral perspective.
It takes quite an imagination and ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.
Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.
It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.
To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.
Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
There is no way that Christians parents would teach their children to use a scapegoat.
Good morals and Jesus speak against the messianic concept and bids us pick up our crosses and follow him.
Regards
DL

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Message 1433 of 1864 (907826)
02-28-2023 5:47 PM
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02-28-2023 5:00 PM


Re: British Humor Writ Large
Yes, it is for those who wish to recognize immoral concepts.
You asked who judges.
Your bible says you do, but you did not render your due and duty.
Regards
DL

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