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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, most Jews and Christians misunderstand
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one." When we interpret scripture we must consider it all. Isaiah tells us that we must "take a little here, and alittle there." God the Father Himself calls the Son God. Hebrews 1:8 "But to the Son He said, your throne O Godis for ever and ever...." Psalms 110:1 "The Lord said unto my Lord, sit thou atmy right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." These are the same two members of the God family orGod "Kind" spoken of in John 1:1. "In the beginning was the Word (the 2nd Lord in Psalms110:1), and the Word was with God (the 1st Lord in Psalms 110:1), and the Word was God." Both Lord's in Psalms 110:1 were God. The same being did not sit on his own right hand. You say that God is all-powerful (omnipotent),and thatHe could find a way to do this. But it still makes no sense. Even though God is omnipotent, there are still thingsthat He cannot do. For example: He cannot lie; He cannot increase ordecrease in knowledge; He cannot sin; He cannot break a promise; etc.... The Hebrew word interpreted "one" is from "echad,"which itself is from "achad." Echad can have several meanings , such as united; one;first, as in sequence or importance; alone, together; and foremost. The Israelites had just come out of Egypt. The Egyptiansworshipped many gods. Moses was telling them that God "alone" was God; thatHe was first, the highest priority. Vs.5 "And thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thineheart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." Read the chapters surrounding 6. Moses discusses theblessings and benefits if they served only Him. God alone (echad) was to be Israel's God. There is no other God apart from the true God, outsideof the God family or God "Kind." In Genesis 11:6 speaking of the people building the TowerOf Babel, God said, "Behold, the people is one (echad). They were united (echad) in their goal and purpose. Genesis 2:24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father andhis mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one(echad) flesh." John 17:21 "That they may be one; as thou father, are inand I in thee, that they also may be one in us;..." The Apostles were one (united) in purpose and goal; aswe're the Father and Son. Concerning the trinity, if someone wants to laugh, readthe Athanasius Creed.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZ, I am very content with my life. I have a great wife; kids;
and grandkids. I have good friends who are also content with their lives. If this bothers you, then you are the one with issues. I still wish you to be happy and content.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZ, I could say that you are spreading the poison of
evolution. And, I do believe that it is poison. I have been saying that God is a loving God that has theintent to give eternal life to all who will accept it. I could be like the majority of churches and say that Godwill burn humans in hell fire for eternity, as they scream in indescribable pain. You are like most liberals in that you not only want tocontrol what people say and do but what they think. You should take a good long look in the mirror and askyourself what is so great about you. You might just find that the answer is "not much."
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dwise, you tell me. What you mean by evolution.
I believe in variety within a species. If you wish to callthat evolution, then so be it. I believe that variety is by design-built in. Let me put this in simple terms: If you believe that an animal such as a dog can evolveover time to become a different animal such as a cat then It is totally up to you to prove it. It is not my responsibility to disprove it. You do not convince someone by calling them dishonestand untruthful. I am being completely honest when I say that I do notbelieve in macro-evolution. If I believed in it, I would not deny it. That would make nosense The part about poison was in response to AZ callingChristians poison. No need to work yourself up over it.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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AZ, I am not forcing Phat to believe a certain way.
Whereas Liberals control 95% of the media; all ofHollywood; the music industry; our schools and universities; big tech; industry; the FBI & CIA; and, most everything else. Small kids in our schools are being bombarded withtransgenderism; drag queens; and, liberals teachers using pronouns such as they, them, when speaking of themselves. I enrolled at Murray State in 2000 when I was 47 yearsold. I sold much of my antique bottle collection in order to pay for it. I wanted to help people so I enrolled in Social Work. I was told that I would not be required to advise anyoneseeking abortion or homosexuality assistance. During my final semester I was told that in Social WorkI would now be required to help those seeking abortions, and those needing assistance with their homosexuality. I was also required to write a paper on how to get morefemales enrolled at Murray State. My research clearly showed that female enrollment atthat time was just under sixty percent. My paper pointed out that it was actually males whoneeded our assistance. I also pointed out that many young boys were beingraised by single mothers who were inadequate in teaching them to be young men. This isn't all but I was told that I would never work inSocial Work in West Kentucky. I only wanted to do good, but they wanted me to agreeto their agenda. A recent poll of Americans who hated themselves showsthere is only one group who thought this way. That group consists of White Liberals. Liberals are as close to Nazism and Communism as anygroup or political party can get.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Taq, nazism controlled all the Liberals now control in
America. It is the Liberals who push the agenda of racism. It is impossible to go through a day without hearingthe Liberal media and politicians mentioning it dozens of time. I do not know one Conservative friend that ever mentionsrace. Toxic masculinity is a Liberal term. This is a horrible thingto say to our young boys. This divides the sexes. Young boys are told to suppress their feelings andemotions, but this can have a devastating effect later. Many of them resort to violence, some using guns, whenthey finally explode. Critical Race Theory is openly taught in grade school andcolleges. In many of these places whites are told that they don't have the right to speak. There is not one Liberal politician that can define what awoman is. This is basic biology and they are too stupid to understand this. And only a total nut believes in "white privilege." Being white never gave me a thing. I had to work hard toget what I want. America cannot heal as long as these idiotic agendasare being pushed on us.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
AZ, I believe in the Bible. And, I follow what it says.
Both homosexuality and murder are condemned. You might even be surprised to learn that God dislikesfor a man to be effeminate. 1 Corinthians 6:9. Now I could no more assist someone in killing a baby,or finding a love-nest for homosexuality than I could in helping two people commit adultery, or providing a safe haven for thieves. I will not assist someone commit sin. If you want me to post some links about perversions inour schools, I will. But don't pretend this stuff doesn't happen. And, I believe it when you say that 95% control isn'tenough for Liberals. They want to control it 100%. Being ignorant of what is going on in our schools isno excuse. Not for a grown man. I got into Social Work to help people; to assist people infinding work or a place to live. I wanted to help people with problems they were facing. I wanted to build a network of people that I could depend on when I needed their support, whether monetary or whatever. About a year before we had a falling out, the entireSocial Work staff prayed me for my ingenuity. But, they didn't care about that when they learned that Iwould no compromise my faith. Isaiah spoke of people like you who call good evil andevil good; for putting light for darkness and darkness for light; for putting sweet for bitter and bitter for sweet. God call people like that reprobates. They are no longerable to distinguish.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Taq, you ask do I think it coincidence that whites have
fifty percent higher incomes that blacks. No. Nor do I think it is coincidence that Whites earn 80% ofAsian Americans income. 61% of AA's have a BA or higher. Compared to:40% of Whites; 21% of Hispanics; and, 29% of Blacks. Any Blacks who want to attend college in the USA Canget the grants to do so. They 100% can. AA's and Whites SAR much score significantly higher onSAT scores to have the same chance of admissions as blacks. AA's are docked more than Whites. Liberals try to assign lower SAT scores to hidden biases.They say the biases are hidden because they can't even point them out. 85% of AA's are reared in a family with both parents.This compares to: 74% for Whites;61% for Hispanics; and, 36% for Blacks. Kids with one parent, especially boys, lack the day to dayinvolvement, guidance, and positive example and influence, as well as the financial stability that kids of two parents enjoy. Kids raised by single mothers are more prone to act up;lashout; flounder in school; and, fail at work. They develop behavioral problems. I was raised in an orphanage and I know that this istrue. Most kids who left the orphanage had/have issues, some severe. Black inner city kids join gangs, take drugs, and commitcrimes at high levels. Black men are more than a dozen times more likely toshoot a police officer than the other way around. But, the Liberal media, with its agenda, covers this fact up. A 10% increase in single parent homes equates to anincrease of 17-18% increase in true crimes. Racism has absolutely nothing to do with the disparityIn incomes. We are all responsible for our success or failure. I can see you watching the Liberal News, with your eyeswide open, much like a kid watching Saturday morning cartoons. Believing everything they say. Everyone knows that the Liberal News Networks are ashard core Democrats as any Democrat politician out there. My question is how can anyone expect to hear the truthfrom them? Only an idiot would think that a man can become awoman or that a woman can become a man. Anyone that does not know the difference should not beallowed to vote.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, I can see the confusion in what I wrote.
The part about Blacks and police shooting each otherwas poorly worded. I meant to say that Blacks are 18 (not 12) times morelikely to shoot a police officer than a police officer is to shoot an unarmed black man. The Liberal media reports in such a way that makes itappear that police officers use innocent black men for target practice. I wanted to add a couple more facts to my last post,but I had other things to do. The Black population of New York City amounts toabout 22-23% of the total population; yet, they commit 75% of all shootings. About 4% of Black homicides were committed bypolice officers. But, nearly 12% of Hispanic homicides were committed by cops. Why does the Liberal media focus on Blacks. I stand by what I said: a person who does not know thedifference between a man and a woman should not be allowed to vote. How can we trust their ability to distinguish otherimportant decisions. Grade school kids know the difference between malesand females. They are not allowed to vote. I ask you to look up Dylan Mulvaney on YouTube andwatch his videos. This man needs psychological help, and he needs itbadly.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
nwr, what Ringo thinks about the factuality of Jesus'
existence carries no weight. The existence of Jesus is not dependent on whetherRingo believes in Him or not.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
gia, I don't know why your mother forbids women to
preach in church, but I can tell you why the Heavenly Father forbids it. Only men were selected by Jesus to serve as Apostles. And, the early Christian Church continued to select mento serve as elders and pastors. 1 Cor. 14:34-35 "Let your women keep silent in thechurches; for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but to be under obedience, as also saith the law." "And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husband'sat home: for it is a shame (aischron-a shameful thing) for women to speak in church." 1 Tim. 2:11-14 "Let the woman learn in silence with allsubjection." "But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authorityover a man, but to be in silence." "For Adam was first formed, then Eve." "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman beingdeceived was in the transgression." These verses are not suggestions; they are commands. God gets to decide how He is worshipped; not us. Ephesians 5:22-24 "Wives, submit yourselves unto yourhusband's, as unto the Lord." "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christis the head of the church..." "Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so letthe wives be to their own husbands in everything." The remainder of the chapter instructs husband's tolove their wives and to treat them with the utmost respect. 1 Cor. 11:3 "But I would have you know, that the head ofevery man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." There is an order with God. Many might have an issue with these verses, especiallywomen, and a part of me can understand this, but it is not within our powers to change the will of God.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Dwise, do you even know what MAGA stands for. It
should be a message that all Americans support. You actually want us to believe that more than 80,000,000Americans voted for a senile old man that cannot keep his train of thought together long enough to form a complete sentence. On top of that, his VP cackles every time someone asksher a question. Then she spews out a rambling word salad that says absolutely nothing. I am not making fun of them. It is too serious for that.They have made us the laughing stock of the entire world. Why is it acceptable from Democrats to question elections,but not Republicans? Hillary Clinton still says that the election was stolen fromher. Why don't you ask her to shut up. Al Gore made the same claim. I remember seeing peoplewith gigantic magnifying glasses inspecting every ballot. Democrats supported that. Why is this admistration concerned with protectingUkraine's borders, but not ours? Why is it not in our best interest to prevent 20,000 illegalsfrom entering our country every year? Why is it not in our best Interest to prevent hard drugs,such as fentynal, from pouring across our border by the tons. I hear this administration scream about the damage tothe ecosystem as a result of fossil fuel. But, since 2003 our deserts have been getting greener.There is no disputing this. Liberals counter with "climate change." Whether this is true or not, why isn't solar changes everconsidered as part of the equation? Biden had said that climate change is a bigger threat tohumanity than nuclear weapons. If the U.S. stopped using fossil fuels it would have noeffect at all on the climate. The rest of the world would consume what we forfeit. There is no way that the two largest carbon consumers,China and India, will ration usage. Without fossil fuel how would we move ships across theoceans. How would we fly planes. How would we produce enough electricy to heat and cool our homes and businesses? Those who scream protect the environment aren't reducingtheir usage of private jets, which spew more carbon emitions in one hour than 10,000 automobiles. Liberals, especially the elite, want everyone else to cutback on their usage of fossils fuels, but they won't do it themselves. After all, they are special. One other thing: search "titan mud fossils" and then tellus how their existence cab be explained by the theory of evolution.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Phat, Democrats say it is perfectly acceptable for a
woman to murder her own baby. Jesus said that murder is a sin. Phat, Democrats say it is perfectly acceptable for aman to turn into to a woman and for a woman to turn into a man. Jesus states that He made us male or female, not both. Phat, grade schools are teaching children that they canchange their gender. Also, the Democratic state of Oregon will pay for fifteenyear old kids to change their sex, even without parental knowledge or consent. Jesus says that it would be better for those who leadthese young ones astray if a millstone were hung around their neck and then cast into the sea. Jesus tells parents (not states) to raise up a child in a waythat he should go, and when he is older he will not depart from it. Phat, you are a total nut if you think that Jesus is neutralon these issues.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
nrw, I don't care if some Democrats are critical of what
trans activists are pushing. It is still supported by the Democratic Party. The Democrats also support murder of their ownchildren. And they will attack someone without mercy if they speaks against it. Some Nazis were against annihilation of the Jews, andsome Mualims were against 911, but this did not prevent the acts. These videos of women packing their signs thatpromote abortions, while screaming "kill, kill, kill," makes America look totally sadistic. If there were a Republican candidate that supportedthese ideas, then I would not vote. I will put my money where my mouth is. I will never votefor a candidate or a party that supports an agenda that is contrary to God. Did you support the Black national anthem at the SuperBowl. The Democratic Party seeks to divide us, not unite us. Anyone can figure out why they do this, if they wouldjust stand back and truly observe.
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candle2 Member Posts: 850 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
nwr, are you really as ignorant as you pretend to be?
These perversions are supported by your party: theDemocrats. If you do know what your party stands for, I suggestthat you contact a politician of that party, they will be glad to tell you that I am right. The Democrats are the party that kills babies. They are the party that's thinks a man can become awoman and vice-versa. They are the party that castrates young boys andcuts of the breasts of young women. Kenyan born president Obama stated that if a babysurvives an abortion it is acceptable to place it on a back shelf and let it starve. Where is the compassion of this former Liberal president. Oh, that's right; he doesn't have any.
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