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Topic: All About Biblical Kinds
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PaulK
Member Posts: 18082 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 5.0
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
quote: I have a Biblically-based phylogeny here: Baramin - BibleStrength
No, you don’t. That’s just an attempt at a taxonomy. A phylogeny is based on ancestry, it’s not just a system of classification.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 772 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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MrIntelligentDesign writes: Have you ever watched the documentary of Sun Tzu, the Art of War in YouTube? Watch it and apply that to Evolution...
What I said was not about evolution per se. I said, "It's easy to "defeat" your enemy if you don't actually confront him." If you claim you can "defeat" evolution, you have to confront evolution where it is - i.e. you have to confront the actual Theory of Evolution, not a strawman that you've made up in your head. "I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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MrIntelligentDesign
Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 248 Joined: 09-21-2015
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Message 63 of 70 (892765)
03-13-2022 1:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Taq 02-09-2022 4:47 PM
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MrIntelligentDesign
Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 248 Joined: 09-21-2015
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
Well, that classification is very hard to learn. Try mine in the OP. But, EVOLUTION IS FALSIFIED, too! ALL ABOUT BIBLICAL KINDS (AronRa's Phylogeny Challenge Accepted) | Zenodo
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sensei
Member (Idle past 308 days) Posts: 482 Joined: 01-24-2023
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Message 65 of 70 (907191)
02-20-2023 6:44 AM
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Reply to: Message 61 by PaulK 02-26-2022 1:25 PM
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
You are using circular logic, as ancestry assumes evolution from common ancestor.
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PaulK
Member Posts: 18082 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 66 of 70 (907195)
02-20-2023 7:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 65 by sensei 02-20-2023 6:44 AM
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
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You are using circular logic, as ancestry assumes evolution from common ancestor.
Well that’s a dramatic failure of comprehension on your part. Pointing out that a phylogeny requires ancestry is a simple matter of definitions.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005
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Message 67 of 70 (907204)
02-20-2023 8:48 AM
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Reply to: Message 65 by sensei 02-20-2023 6:44 AM
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
I will add "circular logic" to the growing list of terms you do not understand. The list is getting quite impressive. Maybe you should define the term as you understand it, so we can correct your misunderstanding.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq
Member Posts: 10392 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.5
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Message 68 of 70 (907426)
02-23-2023 3:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 65 by sensei 02-20-2023 6:44 AM
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
sensei writes: You are using circular logic, as ancestry assumes evolution from common ancestor.
Do you have to assume a suspect is guilty in order to get a match between the suspect's DNA and DNA at a crime scene? We observe a phylogeny. That matches what we would expect from common ancestry. Because we get a match between expectation and observation, we conclude ancestry.
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sensei
Member (Idle past 308 days) Posts: 482 Joined: 01-24-2023
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Message 69 of 70 (907490)
02-24-2023 12:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 68 by Taq 02-23-2023 3:49 PM
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
Phylogeny, with phylos = race and geneia = origin. Common ancestry is not required for phylogeny.
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Taq
Member Posts: 10392 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.5
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Message 70 of 70 (907491)
02-24-2023 12:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 69 by sensei 02-24-2023 12:40 PM
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Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
sensei writes: Common ancestry is not required for phylogeny. Will common ancestry produce a nested hierarchy? Is there any reason why we would expect to see a nested hierarchy if separate creation is true?
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