Testing The Christian Apologists

I might mention that our very own site owner and Admin, Percy, came from a Universalist background. Lets again ask Diffen.
Atheism vs Gnosticism

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Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
Gnosticism describes a collection of ancient religions whose adherents shunned the material world - which they viewed as created by the demiurge - and embraced the spiritual world.

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Hence why I scolded GIA for cussing at people...seeing as how that is a manifestation of one of those ancient spirits from ancient religions.

If he does, the demons are tricking him with an antichrist spirit that seeks to make oneself as the only god that makes sense. Which leads to the question of whether the antichrist himself believes in an afterlife.Overall I think that we(Christians)are more narrow minded as a group than are gnostics, universalists, and atheists.Which may not be a bad thing.
After all, Jesus told us that narrow is the path...and that few find it. Critics would say that the church manipulated followers by speaking of a narrow path. Yet the secular path has a lot of thorns and thistles.

Damn few Christians will ever find it.

A great many open minds need to be closed down for repair.What about those "free-thinkers" who think they're "free" without Christ? Delusion HQ.

Ol' Misery Guts strikes again. If only all those other Christians were as perfect as thou, what a wonderful world it would be ...

What it shows is that "God says so" and "our own inner moral sense says so" work about the same, if not better with our own inner moral sense given the discrepancy between atheists in the general population and in prisons.

That's one of them jesus crackers backing up into your brain, Dredge. Being free thinking means I can ignore your brand of religious delusion with no problems at all. That is the power of mind - gods one day, gone the next.Gimme an H! Gimme a U! Gimme an M! Gimme an A! Gimme an N!Geaux Yumons!

Yes, I know that is your contention--that most of the sheep will be atheists,Wicca's,Universalists,and maybe even Gnostic's! You always abhorred the idea that we were given something that we never earned, as if your meritocracy boarding school mentality of a life consisting of what we do rather than saved by grace was more rational. God, if She exists may have other ideas.

One would think that God would let you in based on intangibles in your character, even though you hate religion and even though you diss Jesus. But then again you were raised Catholic IIRC so its understandable.You were never one of the saved by grace crowd as was I.

No. Never had a meat cracker or a Hail Mary. I was raised as Heathen.

Personally, I don't like scams, and that smells like a scam. If I have to die in order to test your claims that doesn't seem like something worth believing. If you end up being right, all the more power to you. If the Muslims end up being right and they get in, but you don't, then all the more power to them.

Thats reasonable. Keep in mind that I'm not selling religion...I'm just exchanging ideas. I most certainly would not want anyone to have to die in order to discover the truth about reality.I have my beliefs and will admit to a bias in favor of the Christianity I know.

Deary me, that's disturbing. I'm no expert but I think your psychiatrist ought to consider upping the dosage of ur medication.

Imagine (remix by Phat)
Imagine all the people creating their own identity
No Man nor Woman All Non Binary
We will burn down all churches
our minds unshackled and free
With but science to guide us
all inclusive equalityImagine theres no countries
No top dog to set the rules
Just one united nations
a great starship of foolsImagine there's no heaven
Jesus just a myth you see
No hell below us
We make our own identity
Imagine all the people
Throwing God AwayYou may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the government will be as oneImagine no possessions
that you can call your own
No one is any better
No one has their own home
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the worldYou may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be free of RepublicansImagine no possessions
the state owns everything
Money is created freely
with no floor nor ceilingimagine all the nations
Sharing all we have
You may say im a dreamer
but i gave it all away
the only ones are elitists
who have slightly better pay

Have you seen on the breaking news where some god has shown up somewhere? Anywhere?No. That was me. I'm not exclusive. I vanquish all gods.When you wake up in the morning and hear on the news that no gods miraculously came into existence ... that was me.God idea ... simple glancing human thought ... god gone.It really is that simple. If you get off those jesus crackers, Dredge, even you could do it.