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AZPaul3
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Message 916 of 1086 (907163)
02-19-2023 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 912 by Dredge
02-19-2023 9:18 AM


Haven't you heard? Science can't prove anything.
That's just what I said, Dredge. Are you not paying attention?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 917 of 1086 (907170)
02-19-2023 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 913 by Greatest I am
02-19-2023 9:25 AM


Greatpest-I-am writes:
I am a Gnostic Christian.
What is a Gnostic Christian?

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AZPaul3
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Message 918 of 1086 (907172)
02-19-2023 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 917 by Dredge
02-19-2023 1:33 PM


What is a Gnostic Christian?
A different flavor of fairy tale religion stemming from the older abrahamic fairy tales. Details don't matter. It's a religion just as real and just as dumb as yours.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 919 of 1086 (907173)
02-19-2023 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by AZPaul3
02-19-2023 1:52 PM


Thank u 4 that information

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Greatest I am
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Message 920 of 1086 (907209)
02-20-2023 12:33 PM
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02-19-2023 1:33 PM


As compared to Christianity, we are the good Christians.
We are universalists and not misogynous or homophobic like many Christians.
We are also brighter as we know that all Gods are man made.
Free thinking and morals are our forte.
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 921 of 1086 (907210)
02-20-2023 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by AZPaul3
02-19-2023 1:52 PM


Spoken like an ass hole who does not know that we do not believe in the supernatural.
Ask questions or remain stupid and ill informed.
Why in hell do you think we were acquisitioned nearly to death by the religions you refer to, stupid?
Regards
DL

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Greatest I am
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Message 922 of 1086 (907211)
02-20-2023 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 914 by Dredge
02-19-2023 9:31 AM


Seems you are to stupid, lazy and ill informed to be able to do your own research, even on a issue that servers you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdtwTeBPYQA
If you want more, check the U.S. jail stats on the religious compared to the really few atheist.
Regards
DL

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Phat
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Message 923 of 1086 (907220)
02-20-2023 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 921 by Greatest I am
02-20-2023 12:35 PM


The Greatest© vs The Rest Of Us
GIA,replying to AZPaul3 writes:
Spoken like an ass hole who does not know that we do not believe in the supernatural.
And yet you curse other forum members whether they are traditional believers or atheists. You may well not believe in the supernatural but you manifest it all the time.
Ask questions or remain stupid and ill informed.
To Whom should he ask questions? You are far far removed from having the intelligence to answer questions. I encourage you to humble yourself and keep searching, however.
Why in hell do you think we were acquisitioned nearly to death by the religions you refer to, stupid?
I suppose that you consider yourself a fount of knowledge regarding Gnosticism but you are but a legend in your own mind. (Keep working at it)

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Greatest I am
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Message 924 of 1086 (907240)
02-21-2023 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 923 by Phat
02-20-2023 3:53 PM


Re: The Greatest© vs The Rest Of Us
I shall, as that is what life is for.
If you have settled for you as is, yuk.
Regards
DL

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Dredge
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Message 925 of 1086 (907310)
02-21-2023 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 920 by Greatest I am
02-20-2023 12:33 PM


Greatest writes:
As compared to Christianity, we are the good Christians.

We are universalists and not misogynous or homophobic like many Christians.

We are also brighter as we know that all Gods are man made.

Free thinking and morals are our forte.
Okay, but what part does Christianity play in "Gnostic Christianity"?
Why doesn't the Catholic Church regard you as Christian?

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Message 926 of 1086 (907312)
02-21-2023 3:53 PM
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02-20-2023 12:35 PM


Greatest writes:
Spoken like an ass hole who does not know that we do not believe in the supernatural.
You're "Christian" but you don't believe in the supernatural? I'm confused. Does that mean you don't believe in God?

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Dredge
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Message 927 of 1086 (907313)
02-21-2023 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 922 by Greatest I am
02-20-2023 12:40 PM


Greatest writes:
If you want more, check the U.S. jail stats on the religious compared to the really few atheist.
Oh, so you think religion produces more criminals than atheism. Interesting.
Which religion teaches its adherents to commit crimes that send people to jail? I'm a Catholic and I honestly can't recall any priest telling me to steal, rape, injure, murder or traffick illegal drugs.

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AZPaul3
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Message 928 of 1086 (907322)
02-21-2023 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 927 by Dredge
02-21-2023 4:03 PM


I'm a Catholic and I honestly can't recall any priest telling me to steal, rape, injure, murder or traffick illegal drugs.
You weren't listening.
Most recently the priests have been telling people to injure and murder others by denying them legal condoms. It just never stops with your evil church, Dredge.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Phat
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Message 929 of 1086 (907324)
02-21-2023 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 926 by Dredge
02-21-2023 3:53 PM


Answering For The Peanut Gallery
I can almost answer for some of the EvC members having known what they have said in the past. Greatest IAM is not yet a charter peanut gallery member, but I can guess what he will say in response/reply to you. So if you will allow me...
Dredge writes:
You're "Christian" but you don't believe in the supernatural? I'm confused. Does that mean you don't believe in God?
Message 1
GIA:
I am not much into the myths we(old school Gnostics) wrote to put against the Christian myth, when we all knew that it was foolish to believe in the supernatural.
I do like the universalist thinking and naturalistic aspect of religion that Christianity abandoned for supernatural thinking.
Jesus asks in scriptures; have ye forgotten that ye are gods?
If you have forgotten your birth rite of godliness, but can think in material dualism terms, body soul term, then Gnostic Christianity has answers that I like and you might also enjoy.(...)Gnostic Christians, like all the esoteric branches of Christianity and Judaism, have never believed in the supernatural.
Most Jews, other than the right wing, like Gnostic Christians, like to point out how Jesus asked in scriptures, have ye forgotten that ye are gods?
Gnostic Christians have not.
Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
It has always puzzled me why GIA doesnt just become a critically thinking secular humanist/atheist like the rest of the peanut gallery, but he does mention the concept of Apotheosis.
Wiki writes:
Apotheosis, also called divinization or deification, is the glorification of a subject to divine levels and, commonly, the treatment of a human being, any other living thing, or an abstract idea in the likeness of a deity. The term has meanings in theology, where it refers to a belief, and in art, where it refers to a genre
In a sense, deification is a synonym. I don't think that GIA actually believes he is a god, since he is flesh and blood like the rest of us, but the demons play tricks with his mind. (Of course he would scoff, claiming that anyone who believes in the supernatural...be it demons or the Holy Spirit...is delusional.

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Dredge
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Message 930 of 1086 (907326)
02-21-2023 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 929 by Phat
02-21-2023 4:40 PM


Re: Answering For The Peanut Gallery
So Greatest remembers that he's a "god" but he doesn't believe in the supernatural? Fascinating but confusing.
Does he believe in an after-life of any kind?

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