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Dredge
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Message 106 of 128 (907175)
02-19-2023 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Theodoric
02-18-2023 8:10 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Theodorkic writes:
Christianity came from Judaism, yet Christianity is not Judaism. Weird.
Christianity (ie, Catholicism) = Judaism + the Messiah

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Theodoric
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Message 107 of 128 (907178)
02-19-2023 3:24 PM
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02-19-2023 3:04 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Seemingly you know nothing about Judaism.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 108 of 128 (907181)
02-19-2023 3:36 PM
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02-19-2023 3:04 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Let's narrow our definitions. We have several to feed into the Diffen Comparison Generator.
Conservative vs Marxism
Catholicism vs Christianity
Diffen:
Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity. All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics. A Christian refers to a follower of Jesus Christ who may be a Catholic, Protestant, Gnostic, Mormon, Evangelical, Anglican or Orthodox, or follower of another branch of the religion.
A Catholic is a Christian who follows the Catholic religion as transmitted through the succession of Popes. The Pope is the leader of the Catholic church. The Catholic church is the largest of the Christian churches - about 60% of Christians are Catholic.

I don't really sit well with that definition as Diffen lumps Gnostics and Mormons in with us decent people! jar would patiently explain that in the group known as Christianity there are many many clubs. We will just have to all agree to disagree.
More from Diffen:
Catholic vs Protestant
Mormonism vs Christianity
Diffen:
Mormons consider themselves to be Christians but Mormonism has historically had an uneasy relationship with traditional Christianity and its branches such as the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, and most branches of Protestantism. This is primarily due to the fact that adherents to Mormonism claim that the movement is a "restoration" of the earliest Christian and Judaic doctrines. Mormonism is considered to have branched from Christianity but differs in certain beliefs.
According to the Latter Day Saints (Mormons), Mormonism and Christianity are identical; Mormonism restores and perfects Christianity. However, traditional Christianity regards Mormonism as a departure from Christianity, or a corruption of it.

Which I agree with. We can toss out those darn Gnostics too!
Christianity vs Gnosticism
Diffen:
Gnosticism describes a collection of ancient religions whose adherents shunned the material world - which they viewed as created by the demiurge - and embraced the spiritual world.
GIA would be better off dropping all religion rather than clinging to that one! The demons play around with people's minds there.
And of course, the progressives would argue that we should simply throw out the whole kit & kaboodle of religions and become secularists. Mike Huckabee and his daughter would not be amused.
As for Trump, keep in mind that there was once a prophecy about him from a 100% authentic prophet.
(Kim Clement Prophecy

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Message 109 of 128 (907182)
02-19-2023 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Dredge
02-19-2023 3:04 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Christianity (ie, Catholicism) = Judaism + the Messiah
Oh you are bad at math. Let me fix it for you.
christianity + judaism + islam + catholic + sunni + haredi = evil
There you go.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 110 of 128 (907183)
02-19-2023 3:47 PM
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02-19-2023 3:42 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
I wonder if we threw holy water on you you would start screaming and legions of demons would exit through your forehead?

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Message 111 of 128 (907185)
02-19-2023 4:04 PM
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02-19-2023 3:47 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
I thought I had already relayed this to you guys.
I am legally enjoined from entering a church (or being within 100 yards of a catholic church) for fear of major property damage. Whenever I enter a church, especially catholic, all the statues jump up screaming and crash through the stained-glass windows to get away. Including the demons hiding behind the altar.
I used to relish watching the hem of the stone blue shawl over the stone virgin mary cracking on the high curbs as she high-stepped it through the parking lot.
The reason for the injunction is because the holy water trick didn't work. It just made me wet. The archdiocese was spending a fortune trying to replacing everything.
I thought you guys knew this already.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 112 of 128 (907186)
02-19-2023 4:04 PM
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02-19-2023 3:47 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Nope, he'd just get wet.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 113 of 128 (907188)
02-19-2023 11:14 PM
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02-19-2023 3:47 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
... probably. Good one, Phat!

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Message 114 of 128 (907189)
02-19-2023 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by AZPaul3
02-19-2023 3:42 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Abhorrence of God or anything holy is one of the symptoms of demonic influence/possession. Then again, your phobia could be the result of mental illness (your psychiatrist has probably already made you aware of that).

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Message 115 of 128 (907190)
02-19-2023 11:42 PM
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02-19-2023 11:20 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Abhorrence of God or anything holy is one of the symptoms of demonic influence/possession.
No, it's my human super power. I can vanquish any god any time any where with only a thought.
You haven't seen yours around lately have you. Haven't seen that charlatan in 4000 years.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 116 of 128 (907199)
02-20-2023 8:07 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by AZPaul3
02-19-2023 11:42 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
Haven't seen that charlatan in 4000 years.
Even then it was drug-induced or made up

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 117 of 128 (907308)
02-21-2023 3:42 PM
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02-19-2023 11:42 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
AZEvidence writes:
I can vanquish any god any time any where with only a thought.

You haven't seen yours around lately have you.
Silly rabbit! If you can see the god it proves he is fake! If you can build a statue of Him=FAKE
Thats the whole purpose, meaning, and explanation for the Holy Spirit.
All we are really dealing with for the past 2023 years are ethers. And there are basically two flows.
1) The Holy Spirit (aka Holy Ghost)
2) The Imitators. The wannabe gods. The lies that humans can be gods. (or god.)

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Message 118 of 128 (907309)
02-21-2023 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Theodoric
02-20-2023 8:07 AM


Prove It! Show me data, evidence,or integrity
You are so skeptical, but then again that's what makes you a good critical thinker.
Years from now, whenever I think of EvC I will always remember you as the
Prove It© Guy.

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Message 119 of 128 (907317)
02-21-2023 4:12 PM
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02-19-2023 11:42 PM


Re: Who Is? It Is The GOP
It's sad that u seem to prefer darkness over the light that u've been hiding from all your life. But the light will catch up with u eventually ... there is no escape.

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Message 120 of 128 (907318)
02-21-2023 4:17 PM
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02-21-2023 3:47 PM


Re: Prove It! Show me data, evidence,or integrity
Phat writes:
Years from now, whenever I think of EvC I will always remember you as the
Prove It© Guy.
How ironic ... the Prove It© Guy believes in Darwinian evolution, a theory that can't be proven.

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