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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Taq writes:
Fossil evidence of evolutionary links between pre-Cambrian and Cambrian life-forms is practically non-existent ... so much for your nested hierarchy!
If you don't think complex life falls into a nested hierarchy then provide the evidence.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Dredge writes: Fossil evidence of evolutionary links between pre-Cambrian and Cambrian life-forms is practically non-existent ... so much for your nested hierarchy! Lack of fossil evidence does not make the nested hierarchy go away. We can add you to the list of people who don't understand what a nested hierarchy is. Can you tell us how the distribution of characteristics in pre-Cambrian life violates a nested hierarchy?
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Dredge writes: The Cambrian explosion destroys Darwin's single tree of life. HOW???
Instead of one tree, the fossil record reveals many separates trees, which represent the many phyla that appeared during the Cambrian. How did you determine that they are separate trees?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
It does not seem you understand what logic or science are. That is ok. Go ahead, believe your supernatural stories. Just don't pretend they are logical or have evidence.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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sensei Member Posts: 480 Joined: |
So many of mentioned groups have lived now for hundreds of millions of years all over Earth under variety of circumstances. And none of them were able to start and complete a grand branching event in all those different circumstances?
If branching happens at such rate, we would never see the tremendously huge variety of life that we see today, withing 4 billion years. Another failed prediction of evolution theory. And I assure you, this is just the tip of the iceberg. While you bury your head, looking at data in mutations, you fail to take a moment to zoom out and see the bigger picture, where evolution predictions fail miserably.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Instead of one tree, the fossil record reveals many separates trees, which represent the many phyla that appeared during the Cambrian. That is false. Wishful thinking on your part. Those lineages started in the ediacaran. You cannot show they are unrelated to phyla in pre-cambrian and cambrian radiations.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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sensei Member Posts: 480 Joined: |
You rather give magical powers to natural selection, believing it can supernaturally form intelligent life through random steps.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
sensei writes: So many of mentioned groups have lived now for hundreds of millions of years all over Earth under variety of circumstances. And none of them were able to start and complete a grand branching event in all those different circumstances?​ This is what you said before: "Look at the many species of crocodiles, mosquitos, spiders, ants, worms, snakes, butterflies. Such huge varieties in sizes, colors, shapes, but each fit perfectly inside their niche group for period of tens or hundreds of millions of years. Yet one single mammal ancestor species supposedly branched by progressive evolution into over 20 different orders of species. Such variety in one group on the level of orders, but the absence of such in so many other common groups, is evidence of design choice." How are mammals any different than these other groups. With mammals we have everything from monotremes to bats to whales to squirrels to bison to kangaroos . . . that's a lot of different species. What are you on about? What exactly are you comparing? And how in the world do you determine that a "branching event" is complete?
If branching happens at such rate, we would never see the tremendously huge variety of life that we see today, withing 4 billion years. We do see a huge variety of life. Look around. Vertebrates have been around for less than a billion years, and look at all the variety. Arthropods have been around for less than a billion years, and look at all their variety. You have everything from insects to clams to sea cucumbers to lobsters. What planet do you live on?
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
sensei writes: You rather give magical powers to natural selection, believing it can supernaturally form intelligent life through random steps. You are projecting. Please show us the genetic differences between humans and other apes that you think could not be produced by mutations and natural selection. Which ones do you think require supernatural magic?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
You rather give magical powers to natural selection, believing it can There. Fixed it for you. Indeed evolution has that magical power. It's done that a few times now.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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sensei Member Posts: 480 Joined: |
Nothing is fixed. Evolution of all life to such a complexity, requires more magic and supernatural defyance of probability.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
sensei writes: Evolution of all life to such a complexity, requires more magic and supernatural defyance of probability. Where's the evidence?
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sensei Member Posts: 480 Joined: |
So you get to pick what my words are referring to now? Straw man again?
How about single cell starts multiplying and form a bunch of cell, into larger living being, replicating genetic material with each cell division. How do some cells magically start thinking of producing a different type of cells with each only half of the genetic materials?And also a second type of cells, also with half of genetic materials. And even if evolution managed such, the one of the new type cells also need to have a system of disposing the genetic content inside the other new type of cells. So nature just thought of this and it all evolved simultaneously? As there is absolutely no benefit in producing cells with half of genetic material without a system present to combine it with some other type new type of cell. Give full and plausible explanation how this could have evolved.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Explain the probability problems.
To the peanut gallery.I know that is mean but I want to see you guys tear him apart. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
What do you think a straw man is?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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