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Message 2 of 303 (906665)
02-15-2023 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
02-15-2023 7:30 PM


Phat begins new thread
Phat writes:
Which leads me to ask, how does a guy get ahead? Must I be content to run with the pack and merely get my quota??
Yes. Why do you want others to fall behind?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 12 of 303 (906697)
02-16-2023 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Phat
02-15-2023 7:54 PM


Re: Phat begins new thread
Phat writes:
They need to learn to keep up through personal initiative rather than handouts.
They aren't Handouts, they are Hands Up, and they are at bare subsistence levels and require jumping through all kinds of hoops to get.
I'm for social services such as food stamps and welfare, but it all shouldn't simply be a blank check.
A blank check??? A blank check would be a huge amount, not subsistence level. You could fill it in for a million dollars each time if it was truly a blank check. Nobody gets a blank check.
I don't think the progressives understand money
Whereas I KNOW you don't.
Do you really think if he were given government assistance it would have helped us?
Certainly.
Teaching people that they are owed something
I also agree that this is bad, but it's a gross mischaracterization.
At best, they get to eat better for a year or two.
Actually longer than that, if they keep the bureaucratic paperwork up.
So it's not a blank check, after all.
Keeping the paperwork up is almost as hard as working in a grocery store, you know. 20 cents an hour is very bad, even correcting for inflation and supposing he grew up in the Great Depression, like my parents did. You should be thanking your God for FDR!
standing more for equality rather than personal initiative does nothing
These are not a choice of one or the other - that is a false dichotomy. You should be encouraging both, hand in hand.
FDR's times made a vast improvement and set up the country with a great run (for white males at least), but then the corporatists fell into Greed and gradually, over the liberal Democrat party's objections, took back much of it away with tax loopholes and outright monopolies. They are still trying to "sunset" Social Security! They have hated what FDR accomplished when he wasn't winning WWII ever since.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 28 of 303 (906795)
02-16-2023 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Phat
02-16-2023 11:48 AM


Re: Conservatives vs Liberals
Phat admits his ignorance with:
I don't even know what a Gish Gallop is...
Migod man, how long have you been here? December 30, 2003?
A site that is mainly about Evolution versus Creationism and you joined almost 20 years ago and you still don't know???
Why are you even here?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 30 of 303 (906797)
02-16-2023 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by xongsmith
02-16-2023 4:26 PM


Re: Conservatives vs Liberals
Google or bing can help:
The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 35 of 303 (906805)
02-16-2023 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Phat
02-16-2023 4:38 PM


Re: You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
Phat spouts:
Are only Conservatives Racist?
Are only white people racist?
Are only Puerto Ricans Racist?
​
Stop generalizing.
He wasn't generalizing. He was specifically calling Shapiro a racist.
In fact it is YOU who are generalizing when you continue that with:
You throw the R word anywhere and everywhere it will stick, but then that's the behavior of much of the Left.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 36 of 303 (907493)
02-24-2023 1:55 PM


Forgiveness
I think I need help. How am I ever going to forgive people who vote Republican, considering how foul and disgusting the GOP has been for most of my life and especially now. I want to see Rupert Murdoch mowed down by machine guns live on national TV for his criminal lying. I want all Republican politicians to come to death by some painful disease. They all deserve to die for their vicious, sadistic goals.
How can I forgive myself for voting for Frank Sargent over Mike Dukakis as Massachusetts Governor, the only Republican I've ever voted for? How about voting for Eldridge Cleaver over Hubert Humphrey which may have contributed to the foul Nixon setting the country back 40 years?
Forgiveness appears beyond my reach. Peace and love seem even further away than ever.......

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 40 of 303 (907498)
02-24-2023 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Phat
02-24-2023 2:31 PM


Re: Forgiveness
Phat asks:
Would you strafe all of them with a machine gun?
if i could hold and aim it, and the live TV was on and it was okay with the TV producers, then, yeah ... sometimes I just want to do that.
it's a good thing I can't, right?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 41 of 303 (907499)
02-24-2023 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Tanypteryx
02-24-2023 2:47 PM


Re: Forgiveness
Tanypteryx adds:
A very slow steamroller starting at their feet!
ooo good one.
i've had in mind a tow truck with each one tied up in a straight jacket, bound tightly except for their head and suspended by their feet with the cable loosened down to just where their head would hit the pavement and slowly drag them around the block over and over, keeping them alive as long as possible.
didn't Saddamn Hussein have some equipment that was even nastier?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 43 of 303 (907501)
02-24-2023 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by xongsmith
02-24-2023 3:25 PM


Re: Forgiveness
like i said at the top of this thread, can i find forgiveness??
you see, Phat, this is why some of us roll our eyes at some of your "both-siderisms". and why some of us are embarrassed to have you admit that you vote Democratic, which we perceive as almost by a lucky accident.
sorry if this offends, i have even given your posts a couple cheers over the years.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 44 of 303 (907502)
02-24-2023 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Taq
02-24-2023 3:31 PM


Re: Forgiveness
Taq writes:
The worst punishment would be to give them their own country (say a few states in the southeast) and enact their policies in their new country.
But wouldn't that deprive the rest of us a chance to form a cheering crowd lining the streets?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 53 of 303 (907512)
02-24-2023 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Phat
02-24-2023 3:41 PM


Re: Justifiable Extremism?
Phat asks:
you would *never* vote for anything that any Republican proposed. Am I right?
Sure I would, if and when they ever do propose something good.
Nixon signed the EPA into existence. but it was a Democratic congress that wrote it up for him.
12 Republicans voted with the Dems to impeach the 2nd time, but it was still short of the 2/3 needed to convict.
Liz Cheney held the Constitution over party loyalty.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 55 of 303 (907515)
02-24-2023 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Taq
02-24-2023 5:31 PM


Re: Justifiable Extremism?
taq writes:
jar writes:
Repealing safety and maintenance requirements as well as liability risks.
Absolutely. In Crazyland, if a train wrecks and spills toxic chemicals everywhere don't expect the government or the company that spilled it to do anything. Nope, "government is the problem" is the Republican motto, so they won't be showing up. Good luck to anyone affected by the toxic spill since Crazyland is all about "personal responsibility".
Makes one wonder if they will make it more than 1 generation with toxic drinking water, open pits of nuclear waste, and the like.
i wonder if Biden can unrepeal Trump's sabotaging of the brake upgrade that he made to suck the Big RR dicks. or does he have to get the Fucking Fascists to go along?

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 65 of 303 (907561)
02-25-2023 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Phat
02-25-2023 3:53 PM


Re: What Is Deregulation
Phat writes:
I *do* understand the concept of smaller government bureaucracy, but certainly not if it hurts people.
Now you may understand why I have no forgiveness for them. They are sadists, vicious greedy assholes who need to be gunned down before they kill any more of us.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 66 of 303 (907562)
02-25-2023 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by jar
02-25-2023 2:40 PM


Re: What Is Deregulation
hey jar, i hope you won't mind if i posted this to facebook, crediting you of course. it's an awesome list!! thank you thank you thank you!

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 93 of 303 (907965)
03-03-2023 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Phat
02-28-2023 7:59 AM


Re: So The Stores Should Let People Steal?
Phat notes:
Higher taxes are not a popular topic with the working class.
well, you know that the right-wing propaganda has been trying to con the poorer of us that taxes always means we have to pay more instead of the rich. or instead of the corporations and their stock-buy-back shit.
that their not popular speaks of the gullibility of people. tax the rich!!!
starting with those who make $400,000 and up.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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