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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
Kleinman
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Message 2869 of 2926 (906455)
02-12-2023 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 2865 by Dredge
02-12-2023 9:25 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman:
The leader of that takeover is using these stooges to deny God. They don't understand that denying their Creator has immediate and long-term effects on their souls. They have no idea of mercy and where that mercy comes from.
Dredge:
Well said. I've long contended that the raison d'etre of the theory of evolution is to deceive the masses into believing that life on earth is the result of a natural process that's well understood by science, thereby doing away with the need of a divine Creator ... and that the source of this deception is the Evil One.

It is a complex and clever deception. On one hand it enables these people to deny the existence of God based on a falsehood, and on the other hand, it causes harm and death to those suffering from drug resistant infections and failed cancer treatments. This is something that has come from the mind of someone totally set on evil.

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Kleinman
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Message 2870 of 2926 (906456)
02-12-2023 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 2866 by Dredge
02-12-2023 9:28 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Dredge:
What about the murder of fish by humans? Fish are even closer relatives to ringo than bacteria are! Eating fish is virtually cannibalism!
On any scale, this is heartless. Did you hear the one about the one armed fisherman? He was telling everyone about this big fish he caught. When one of the people asked, "just how big was that fish"? The one armed fisherman stuck out his arm and said, "it was that long".

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Kleinman
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Message 2871 of 2926 (906458)
02-12-2023 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 2867 by AZPaul3
02-12-2023 9:39 AM


Re: Forewarned.
AZPaul3:
Happy Darwin's Day!
Darwin got some things right but he really missed the target when it comes to universal common descent. He did give the correct explanation of how drug resistance occurs and why cancer treatments fail but biologists just can't figure out the math.

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Kleinman
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Message 2874 of 2926 (906465)
02-12-2023 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 2873 by Dredge
02-12-2023 10:44 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Dredge:
Let's not forget the plants, with whom we humans share a common ancestors. Next time you boil a potato, remember that you're boiling one of your cousins.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/do14PAsILnU

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Kleinman
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Message 2879 of 2926 (906472)
02-12-2023 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2876 by Phat
02-12-2023 12:36 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Phat:
So a question to Dredge and Kleinman.

Were Evolution ever proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be the truth, would that one fact destroy Christianity? Why or why not?
You are very slow at this. Evolution is true. Universal common descent is not true. We are not related to bacteria, potatoes, or chimpanzees. However, bacteria evolve drug resistance and cancer treatments do fail and both are due to evolutionary processes. Biologists have failed to understand how evolution works.

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Kleinman
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Message 2880 of 2926 (906474)
02-12-2023 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 2878 by Dredge
02-12-2023 12:51 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Dredge:
Considering our common ancestry, I see nothing unnatural or weird about a human being falling in love with a potato or a lettuce or an orange.
So you do believe in mixed salads, whoops I mean mixed marriages.

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Kleinman
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Message 2886 of 2926 (906488)
02-12-2023 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 2883 by AZPaul3
02-12-2023 2:14 PM


Re: Forewarned.
AZPaul3:
“Knowing of wisdom we became scholars eschewing the icons of myth and fantasy relegating deity to the void.”

AZPaul3 212:23
The great scholar Paul will now explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. That is if he can take time away from his warmongering.

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Kleinman
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Message 2891 of 2926 (906493)
02-12-2023 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2887 by AZPaul3
02-12-2023 3:16 PM


Re: Forewarned.
AZPaul3:
No, He won't.
Of course, AZPaul3 won't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. AZPaul3 is a stooge and a tool for myth writers.

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Kleinman
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Message 2892 of 2926 (906494)
02-12-2023 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 2888 by Phat
02-12-2023 3:27 PM


Re: A Legend In His Own Mind?
Phat:
So now your God given math skills are way over everyone's head? I suppose you humbly give credit to the good Lord for blessing you with such divine intelligence. Or more likely, you are seeking web searches to finally validate your God given gift that no biologist nor layman throughout the land can understand. NEWSFLASH: We don't care. We see you proving nothing. We just see you going on and on either for personal amusement or to get your name out there through web searches. Am I wrong?
My math skills are God-given, so you are right about that. But you are wrong that it is over everyone's head. Ask dwise1 and Taq and the peer-reviewers of these papers:
For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
(That's your cue for you to be a stooge, AZPaul3.)
You don't care about people suffering from drug resistant infections or failed cancer treatments but I do. You should be ashamed of your indifference to the suffering of these people, but you aren't.

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Kleinman
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Message 2893 of 2926 (906495)
02-12-2023 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 2890 by AZPaul3
02-12-2023 3:32 PM


Re: WarMongering
AZPaul3:
I monger wars over the internet as a side gig to retirement.
You also have a gig as a stooge and a tool for myth writers. Were your parents playing a joke on you when they named you Paul?

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Kleinman
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Message 2895 of 2926 (906497)
02-12-2023 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 2894 by AZPaul3
02-12-2023 4:00 PM


Re: A Legend In His Own Mind?
Kleinman:
(That's your cue for you to be a stooge, AZPaul3.)
AZPaul3:
(That's your cue for you to be a stooge, AZPaul3.)
Kleinman:
For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
AZPaul3:
CAUTION: The listed papers above are considered to be bogus, filled with incorrect math and inappropriate conclusions.

The reader is advised to disregard their content as well as their author.



CAUTION: AZPaul3 knows nothing about evolution, physics, or mathematics. He is a stooge for people who think that humans are related to bacteria but can't explain how drug resistance evolves or why cancer treatments fail.
You still haven't told us whether your parents were playing a joke on you when they named you Paul.

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Kleinman
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Message 2897 of 2926 (906499)
02-12-2023 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2896 by Dredge
02-12-2023 4:24 PM


Re: WarMongering
Dredge:
You are APauling.
Consider the trials he must have gone through because his parents named their atheist child "Paul". His parents probably spanked him and he never recovered.

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Kleinman
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Message 2899 of 2926 (906502)
02-12-2023 6:39 PM
Reply to: Message 2898 by Dredge
02-12-2023 6:24 PM


Re: WarMongering
Dredge:
Yes, he unfortunately went from "Paul" to "APauling" ... so sad to see someone turn their back on their Creator. Who can understand the mind of an atheist?
He can't take the fact that the myth that he believes in isn't true.

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Kleinman
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Posts: 2142
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Joined: 10-06-2016


Message 2904 of 2926 (906512)
02-13-2023 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 2900 by Dredge
02-12-2023 6:57 PM


Re: WarMongering
Kleinman:
He can't take the fact that the myth that he believes in isn't true.
Dredge:
That myth reinforces their godless philosophy, so they cling to it for dear life.

Atheists delude themselves that "science" is on their side ... what a pity that what they've put their faith in is a fool's paradise of pseudo-science, based on a simplistic nineteenth-century superstition. Embarrassing.

They think they will avoid judgement for their sin. They will be in for a sad surprise.

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Kleinman
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Posts: 2142
From: United States
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Message 2905 of 2926 (906513)
02-13-2023 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 2901 by AZPaul3
02-12-2023 10:53 PM


Re: Happy Darwin's Day
AZPaul3:
Happy Darwin's Day to you,
Happy Darwin's Day to you,
Happy Darwin's Day you apes via bacteria,
Happy Darwin's Day to you.
CAUTION: AZPaul3 has a confused idea that apes (and AZPaul3) came about via bacteria. But he can't tell us how drug-resistant bacteria came about from non-drug-resistant bacteria. AZPaul3 doesn't understand biological evolution, physics, or mathematics.

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