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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2839 of 2932 (906045)
02-06-2023 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 2838 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 1:53 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Doesn't the tenderfoot want to know who he has been brainwashed by?
I want to know why you're so confused about grandparents and cousins. Why are you afraid to answer?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2840 of 2932 (906046)
02-06-2023 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 2837 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 1:52 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
He's committing genocide against his own relatives every time he buys some toilet bowl cleaner.
Genocide means people.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2843 of 2932 (906050)
02-06-2023 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 2841 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 2:00 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You don't know whether they agree or disagree based on their lack of public comment.
I said they don't agree, which is correct. You should try learning English.
Whether or not they vocally DISagree is irrelevant. Every scientist on earth doesn't have time to point out that you're wrong.
But if you had anything worthwhile to contribute, they'd be more likely to mention it.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2844 of 2932 (906051)
02-06-2023 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2842 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 2:02 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
So that's how you rationalize the mass murder of your relatives.
Murder also means people.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2846 of 2932 (906108)
02-07-2023 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 2845 by Kleinman
02-06-2023 2:25 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
And they don't disagree, tenderfoot.
All I said was that they don't agree. They don't.
Kleinman writes:
You really need people to agree with your delusions.
Got 'em. Just about everybody on this forum agrees with me that you're a crank.
Kleinman writes:
Tenderfoot's relatives aren't people but some of them have turned into people.
No. You're still missing the basic point: relatives are not the same as ancestors.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2848 of 2932 (906125)
02-07-2023 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 2847 by Kleinman
02-07-2023 11:29 AM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
They won't agree publicly because then the would have to put up with delusional people like you.
They won't agree publicly because they don't agree.
If they did agree with you, and they posted here, yes, they would have to put up with me because I'd point out where they were wrong just like I point out where you are wrong.
Kleinman writes:
The medical term that describes your group is "folie à plusieurs"
What's the term for diagnosing somebody from a distance with no relevant input?
Kleinman writes:
I found a picture of your relatives.
The issue here is whether or not you can recognize your own grandparents.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2850 of 2932 (906134)
02-07-2023 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 2849 by Kleinman
02-07-2023 12:16 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
Are you going to tell them how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail? You could tell them how you are related to the bacteria they used in their experiments.
I don't need to tell them what they already know.
Kleinman writes:
ringo writes:
What's the term for diagnosing somebody from a distance with no relevant input?
It's called "folie à ringo".
So you have "folie à ringo"? I suspect you didn't understand the question.
Kleinman writes:
ringo writes:
The issue here is whether or not you can recognize your own grandparents.
I'm sure they don't look like your relatives.
I think they probably do. Have you lost the plot completely?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2852 of 2932 (906241)
02-09-2023 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 2851 by Kleinman
02-07-2023 1:24 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You read it in one of the imaginary links that you never post.
Anybody can find the links themselves.
Kleinman writes:
You are the one that imagines you are related to bacteria.
It's a fact. The evidence is DNA.
Kleinman writes:
And given enough time bacteria will turn into cowboys.
For the umptieth time, common ancestors turn into bacteria and humans. It is not a direct line from bacteria to humans. Learn the difference between grandparents and cousins.
Kleinman writes:
According to you, your relatives get around using flagella. This is called "folie à ringo".
You can't even make up your mind whether it's a ringo or a pluiseurs. You were right the first time. In fact, it isn't even a pluiseurs, it's a tous.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2854 of 2932 (906271)
02-09-2023 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 2853 by Kleinman
02-09-2023 12:52 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
The Kishony and Lenski experiments do exist but the delusional ignore them...
Kishony and Lenski are biologists and you think all biologists are incompetent. So why do you keep bringing them up?
Kleinman writes:
All you know is what mathematically incompetent and ignorant of the laws of physics biologists have indoctrinated you with.
Nope. Everything I have said about YOUR ignorance of mathematics comes from me alone, nothing from anything resembling indoctrination.
Kleinman writes:
That's why you don't want to try and understand the Kishony and Lenski experiments...
Again, why do YOU keep touting Kishony and Lenski when you say they're nothing but incompetent biologists?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2856 of 2932 (906286)
02-09-2023 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 2855 by Kleinman
02-09-2023 1:23 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
I said they were mathematically incompetent and didn't understand the laws of physics. That doesn't mean they can't be good lab techs.
What it means is that you don't have a clue about what you're criticizing.
Kleinman writes:
They just don't understand how the laws of physics apply to their experiments.
Then how can you trust their experimental design?
Kleinman writes:
So ringo is now an expert in mathematics as well as being a cowboy.
Well, I did try to explain to you in mathematical terms the difference between grandparents and cousins. But it seems to be beyond you, so I guess I can't claim to be an expert in abnormal psychology.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2858 of 2932 (906316)
02-10-2023 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2857 by Kleinman
02-09-2023 2:54 PM


Re: Forewarned.
Kleinman writes:
You are not only delusional, but you are also inattentive.
You seem to think everybody is delusional but you. That seems like a delusion.
Kleinman writes:
You don't have to understand the laws of physics to perform an experiment.
You have to understand the laws of physics to design a useful experiment.
Kleinman writes:
Your explanations are silly as well as being delusional.
According to nobody but you. It seems more likely that YOU are silly and delusional.
Kleinman writes:
Though the mathematics that describes biological evolution is not that difficult, it is way over your head...
The basics of descent are way over YOUR head. Why else would you be so afraid to answer the questions?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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