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Phat
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Message 1 of 128 (906156)
02-08-2023 10:33 AM


For one thing, I agree with her rebuttal to Bidens state of the union speech. Most of the peanut gallery agrees with Biden,so I thought I would stir the pot a bit with this post. I anticipate Theodoric dutifully digging up dirt on Sarah!
One of the points of contention that she allegedly said regarded racism in classrooms. Newsweek did a fact check.
Newsweek did a fact check.
Newsweek writes:
uckabee Sanders signed an executive order on January 10, 2023, titled: "EXECUTIVE ORDER TO PROHIBIT INDOCTRINATION AND CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN SCHOOLS".
The order bans the teaching of critical race theory (CRT), an academic study that explores the notion of systemic racism in American laws and institutions.
Huckabee Sanders claimed CRT "emphasizes skin color as a person's primary characteristic, thereby resurrecting segregationist values, which America has fought so hard to reject."
Within the order, the governor told the Secretary of the Department of Education to "identify any items that may, purposely or otherwise promote teaching that would indoctrinate students with ideologies such as CRT that conflict with the principle of equal protection under the law or encourage students to discriminate against someone based on the individual's color, creed, race, ethnicity... or any other characteristic protected by federal or state law."
Broadly, the order (at the very least) severely limits the teaching of CRT or practices similar to it. The order advances no new prohibitions on racism as a concept, nor tries to define it in any new terms, beyond her view that CRT resurrects "segregationist values."
That the executive order treats CRT as "segregationist" indicates Huckabee considers it a kind of racism, but she did not state that explicitly either in the transcript or during her broadcast rebuttal.
The confusion, it seems, comes from her appearing to treat "racism" as a separate clause to "CRT" and "indoctrination" when she is referring to one executive order in politically rhetorical terms.
There is no evidence that she has "banned racism" in classrooms and mocking tweets by Swalwell, Tyler Cohen, and others, reflect that notion.
The conservative narrative by and large emphasizes traditional family values which they see as being lost. They accuse the political Left of pushing radical change. The Left, in response, says that some of the values that America had and still has are not progressive and in fact regressive. Comments?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
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Message 4 of 128 (906161)
02-08-2023 11:05 AM
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02-08-2023 10:49 AM


Is She Also Deplorable For Being Conservative?
Forum Guidelines.
Argue the position not the person. Sheeesh.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
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We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 6 of 128 (906166)
02-08-2023 11:22 AM
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02-08-2023 11:16 AM


Bidens Speech
To be fair...(Im listening to his full speech now)
Fact-checking President Biden’s State of the Union speech
I must be a Conservative, though I claim to be more in the middle.
State of the Union: Biden sees economic glow, GOP sees gloom
jar writes:
...she is deplorable for trying to claim to be a conservative.
My next question to you is this:
What is a Conservative?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 9 of 128 (906180)
02-08-2023 12:03 PM
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02-08-2023 11:47 AM


Re: Bidens Speech
IIRC you once claimed to be an "Eisenhower Conservative. Fiscally you were conservative, but morally and socially more liberal. Right?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 12 of 128 (906224)
02-09-2023 3:30 AM
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02-08-2023 2:23 PM


What Is A Rockefeller Republican?
I never learned any of this stuff in school, for whatever reason, but I DO know how to look stuff up on the internet. Does this article in any way come close to what you mean by the term?---> The Original Rockefeller Republican What got me in the article was the claim that California was Conservative in 1964!!
quote:
Following primaries and conventions around the country, Rockefeller and Goldwater would face off decisively in California. Rockefeller represented the moderate wing of the Republican Party, yet struggled to line up the endorsements of the prominent leaders worried about Goldwater. President Eisenhower did not want to risk tarnishing his reputation with a public repudiation of the conservative darling. Others, such as Nixon, Michigan Governor George Romney, and Pennsylvania Governor William Scranton, still hoped to arrive at the convention as a compromise candidate after Rockefeller would slay Goldwater. They kept quiet to avoid alienating Goldwater’s supporters.
Then Californians, who made up the heart of Movement Conservatism, handed Goldwater a slim victory in the primary. Rockefeller had failed in his efforts to stop the conservative takeover of his party.

So back in that era, Republicans such as Rockefeller were more moderate?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 13 of 128 (906225)
02-09-2023 3:37 AM
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02-08-2023 2:23 PM


Biden The Conservative..in 1964 Terms
Joe Biden is way too far to the hard right of conservatism as to approach fascism.
Woah. Full Stop. Are you telling me that even Biden is more Conservative than was Nelson Rockefeller? And what's all this talk about Fascism? I could see it taking hold if and only if the working class was decimated in a major Recession/Depression, but I don't see it as likely.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 14 of 128 (906226)
02-09-2023 4:13 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by AZPaul3
02-08-2023 12:04 PM


CRT Examined
I looked up CRT at this source: Encyclopedia Britannica.
critical race theory and would challenge the movement somewhat.
In the article, I read that:
Britannica:
legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour.(...)Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism(...)political liberalism was incapable of adequately addressing fundamental problems of injustice in American society (notwithstanding legislation and court rulings advancing civil rights in the 1950s and ’60s), because its emphasis on the equitable treatment under the law of all races (“color blindness”) rendered it capable of recognizing only the most overt and obvious racist practices, not those that were relatively indirect, subtle, or systemic. Liberalism was also faulted for mistakenly presupposing the apolitical nature of judicial decision-making and for taking a self-consciously incremental or reformist approach that prolonged unjust social arrangements and afforded opportunities for retrenchment and backsliding through administrative delays and conservative legal challenges.
Unlike most CLS scholars, however, critical race theorists did not wish to abandon the notions of law or legal rights altogether, because, in their experience, some laws and legal reforms had done much to help oppressed or exploited people. Yada Yada Yada.

Now it makes sense how and why liberalism changed for the worse and the polarity of the two main US ideologies widened. Seems as if Whites are targeted and that it is a natural result of white privilege. I also noticed the word "Marxist" in the explanation of the prior critical legal studies movement. It also makes sense why Theodoric always hangs the racist label on me because I refuse to go along with the goal of CRT:
quote:
Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.
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So these college-level "experts" are attempting to socially reengineer society?
So not only is my standard of living declining and my notions of color blindness not good enough, but it seems that the Whites now have to go to the back of the bus. Keep in mind that I never saw any of this as a black-and-white thing until the suggestion became to eliminate "unjust hierarchies". I won't push back unless pushed. Leave social engineering alone. No wonder the Liberals are now distrusted by the Conservatives. No wonder so many conservatives get hit with the racism label. And as you all will find out, pushing a group into a corner to redress grievances will only result in the newly marginalized group pushing back. Hence Populism, I suppose! Oh Jesus, why is this world becoming so fragmented and confrontational?
AddbyEdit:SUNY Professor Nicholas Giordano on N.Y. state universities mandating social justice courses. I know its on FOX, but they bring up a good point that people are now labeled either as oppressed or as oppressors.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 35 of 128 (906296)
02-09-2023 7:21 PM
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02-09-2023 8:50 AM


Re: What Is A Rockefeller Republican?
I remember Reagan. Why was he a traitor? A traitor to the old-school Conservatives?
I DO remember how he started the National Debt. And of how he essentially sowed the seeds for Vladimir Putin when Communism fell. But this is where it gets foggy. Of all of the past presidents, Biden is the only one who saw Putin for what he was and is. Biden knows the black soul that is Vladimir Putin. My only take on the Ukrainian War now is that Ukraine may lose. But that's another topic for another day. The issue is the modern Republican Party. And they won't let America fall. (By this, however, they mean America the Empire). They are not concerned about the American people. And this is where it all gets foggy. Why do the Populists love Trump so much? And if Reagan split the Conservatives, what does that say about Trump?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 36 of 128 (906297)
02-09-2023 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Theodoric
02-09-2023 2:56 PM


rWhat Sort Of Conservative is Sarah Huckabee Sanders?
Now you guys really have me curious about the devolution of the Conservative Party.
Before jar brought up Nelson Rockefeller, I thought that the damage to the Conservatives started when they married religion with politics in the days of the Moral Majority. Now I am seeing rabbit trails that I never learned about before.
Trump split them again, but I don't worry about Trump so much as I worry about the future of the Republican Party. jar claims it is fascism. As I connect the dots, I might ask:
Does Populism inevitably lead to Fascism?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 37 of 128 (906298)
02-09-2023 7:32 PM
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02-09-2023 1:32 PM


Re: What Is A Rockefeller Republican?
ringo writes:
You DO know that Google remembers what you search for, don't you? That's why everything you find tends to agree with everything you found before. You have to be clever to fool Google.
I usually use Duck Duck Go. And why would I want to find stuff that supported your argument rather than mine? (Seriously I know why.) That reminds me...I've been slacking in my online class. I better get back there.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 39 of 128 (906300)
02-09-2023 8:14 PM


MAGA and 1920's and 1930's Germany
I'm starting to study what happened to Germany in the post-Great War reparations bills that they were forced to pay. I can see some interesting parallels with the besieged Working Class today.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 43 of 128 (906306)
02-09-2023 10:08 PM
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Re: MAGA and 1920's and 1930's Germany
AZShroomer writes:
If you look hard enough you can probably see a pink elephant in there too.
I started with a source from Encyclopeddia Britannica: Years-of-crises-1920-23
Let's see...
Britannica:
A revived and radicalized right wing asked whether the German army might not have been stabbed in the back by traitors on the home front. Racist circles took seriously the notorious Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a fraudulent document fabricated in Russia in 1895 and published in Germany in 1920, which suggested that all of recent history, including World War I, resulted from a conspiracy of Jews seeking to control the world.
So far, I see racism, fake news, and suggestions by the right wing that vilified their political enemies. I may have struck gold, here. No pink elephants so far, though.
quote:
Freikorps, English Free Corps, any of several private paramilitary groups that first appeared in December 1918 in the wake of Germany’s defeat in World War I. Composed of ex-soldiers, unemployed youth, and other discontents and led by ex-officers and other former military personnel, they proliferated all over Germany in the spring and summer of 1919 and eventually numbered more than 65 corps of various names, sizes, and descriptions. Most were nationalistic and radically conservative and were employed unofficially but effectively to put down left-wing revolts and uprisings in Berlin, Bremen, Brunswick, Hamburg, Halle, Leipzig, Silesia, Thuringia, and the Ruhr.
I'm Not sure which radical group could compare with Freikorp, although the Proud Boys come to mind. To be fair, what about Antifa? Just because a group is radically Left rather than radically Right does not make them any less of a threat to national stability.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 44 of 128 (906307)
02-09-2023 10:15 PM
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Comments to marc9K in general
I have a friend who is far right. He considers himself a hardworking patriot. He loves America and what it "used to stand for." You see, his parents wer immigrants from Argentina. They believed in the American Dream and in hard work and the opportunity to get ahead. They likely would have been sickened by this CRT, Woke Agenda, equality over freedom nonsense that the Left by and large advocates. Of course, I argue with him too. I always like playing devil's advocate no matter what your argument is.
By the way, he watches Fox News way more than I do.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 46 of 128 (906309)
02-09-2023 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by NosyNed
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Re: Definitions?
NosyNed writes:
Just what is CRT? What is a "woke agenda"? What is wrong with equality over freedom and how do you think it should be?
Not everyone should get a ribbon for having ran the race. The America that my friend saw and believes in rewards initiative. Equality forces society to lower the bar in order to accommodate everyone which in his mind is socialism. As we have discussed before, America already has some socialist policies and I am not in favor of dismantling those. For example, I would *never* privatize Social Security or Medicare/ObamaCare. Socialism has its place, but in this Country, Freedom should supersede Equality. (In my opinion).
CRT is Critical Race Theory, a lofty scholarly discipline that I don't yet understand enough to label. I will mention, however, that singling out people without color in order to raise the bar for people of color will only lead to social conflicts. As for the "Woke Agenda," I see that Encyclopedia Britannica does not mention such an agenda. They do talk about Incrementalism and the ideal of rational decision-making .
quote:
Incrementalism emphasizes the amelioration of concrete problems rather than the pursuit of abstract ideals such as social justice.
I resist extreme Social Activism, which I think the term loosely means.
I usually hear the term "woke agenda" on places such as Fox News.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 55 of 128 (906341)
02-10-2023 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Theodoric
02-10-2023 12:45 PM


Re: Definitions?
First off, I DO acknowledge my privilege and stupidity in my earlier struggles with addictions.
As far as offending you, I don't worry as much about that because your ideology basically says that one is either part of the problem or part of the solution. Everything is one way with you and several others whom I communicate with.
By coddling people who were offended and hurt in life, we are not helping them.
Granted we don't help them by being racist or continuing to make the mistakes our ancestors made, but I might mention that many of the "disciples" of CRT, educated and elitist that they claim to be, view virtually ALL White People as racist due to the invisible knapsack of privilege that they were born with. I'm not on board with that type of activism as a solution in our country or on this planet. I will say that if a persuasive enough argument is presented to me as to why I should be on board, I might listen. I'm not simply some white privileged ass. Im human and have had my own struggles in life...struggles that no one at this forum knows about. Tell me to f**k off if you want...you are a gruff old man who wears his heart on his sleeve, but I still listen to you.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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