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Topic: The Power of the New Intelligent Design...
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 646 of 1197 (906202)
02-08-2023 1:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 644 by AZPaul3
02-08-2023 1:43 PM
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... better than nothing, I suppose. But I was hoping for a new Mustang.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 647 of 1197 (906203)
02-08-2023 1:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 645 by Dredge
02-08-2023 1:45 PM
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Re: Typical?
I am the only one on this forum, other than the others, authorized to judge the efficacy of scientific fact. You certainly can't. You don't even know what a fact is.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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nwr
Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 648 of 1197 (906204)
02-08-2023 2:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 638 by Dredge
02-08-2023 1:01 PM
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BTW, do you like my new avatar? It is spewing out crud. Yes, that fits you very well.
Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 649 of 1197 (906205)
02-08-2023 2:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 648 by nwr
02-08-2023 2:12 PM
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Thank you.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 650 of 1197 (906209)
02-08-2023 5:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 647 by AZPaul3
02-08-2023 1:56 PM
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Re: Typical?
The thread concerns itself with intelligent design and I think the reason atheists struggle with that simple concept is that recognizing intelligent design in nature requires a certain degree of intelligence.
My experience of atheists is that, in general, their IQ appears to be well below average. In fact I can't recall ever encountering, or even hearing about, an atheist who could be described as possessing an above-average IQ. The vast majority of evolutionary biologists are atheists, which sorta proves my point.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 651 of 1197 (906210)
02-08-2023 5:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 647 by AZPaul3
02-08-2023 1:56 PM
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Re: Typical?
APauling666 writes: judge the efficacy of scientific fact.
I think you mean, "veracity of a scientific fact".
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 652 of 1197 (906211)
02-08-2023 6:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 651 by Dredge
02-08-2023 5:40 PM
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Re: Typical?
This week I'm having a special. I do both for the same price.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Taq
Member Posts: 10085 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.6
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Message 653 of 1197 (906212)
02-08-2023 6:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 650 by Dredge
02-08-2023 5:33 PM
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Re: Typical?
Dredge writes: The thread concerns itself with intelligent design and I think the reason atheists struggle with that simple concept is that recognizing intelligent design in nature requires a certain degree of intelligence. We don't struggle with the concept. We recognize it for what it is, a subjective opinion. More to the point, ID can't explain the most basic observations in biology, such as the nested hierarchy and the patterns of sequence divergence in genomes.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 654 of 1197 (906218)
02-08-2023 11:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 653 by Taq
02-08-2023 6:40 PM
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Re: Typical?
[qs=ID can't explain the most basic observations in biology, such as the nested hierarchy and the patterns of sequence divergence in genomes.[/qs]
Why not? Do you think God is incapable of creating nested hierarchies?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 655 of 1197 (906219)
02-08-2023 11:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 653 by Taq
02-08-2023 6:40 PM
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Re: Typical?
Taq writes: ID can't explain the most basic observations in biology, such as the nested hierarchy and the patterns of sequence divergence in genomes.
Really? Do you think God is incapable of creating nested hierarchies?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 656 of 1197 (906220)
02-08-2023 11:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 652 by AZPaul3
02-08-2023 6:15 PM
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Re: Typical?
APauling666 writes: This week I'm having a special. I do both for the same price.
You may be blind, clueless and delusion, but at least no one can accuse you of not being generous.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 657 of 1197 (906223)
02-09-2023 3:16 AM
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Reply to: Message 654 by Dredge
02-08-2023 11:00 PM
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No, To Ghosts
Do you think God is incapable of creating nested hierarchies? Yes. Nested hierarchies are a property of evolution not fantasy ghosts.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat
Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 658 of 1197 (906227)
02-09-2023 4:23 AM
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Reply to: Message 650 by Dredge
02-08-2023 5:33 PM
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Intelligence Quotient
Dredge writes: My experience of atheists is that, in general, their IQ appears to be well below average. That's funny. In my experience, atheists in general are smarter than most believers. (Not me, of course!  )
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat
Member Posts: 18350 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 659 of 1197 (906228)
02-09-2023 4:25 AM
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Reply to: Message 644 by AZPaul3
02-08-2023 1:43 PM
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AZ addressing Dredge writes: We'll give you a cookie. Congrats. It's probably already on your computer.  Great humor from Arizona!
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 660 of 1197 (906229)
02-09-2023 5:14 AM
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Reply to: Message 657 by AZPaul3
02-09-2023 3:16 AM
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Re: No, To Ghosts
God is perfectly capable of creating nested hierarchies ... therefore no need for your puny theory of evolution.
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