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ringo
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Message 61 of 153 (906123)
02-07-2023 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Phat
02-06-2023 2:41 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Phat writes:
Socialism that altruistically and blissfully ignorantly "raises all boats" is or will become a globalist socialist agenda.
Shut up about the "globalist socialist agenda". There is no "globalist socialist agenda".
We don't follow any "global agenda". We occasionally borrow good ideas from other nations but we have our own problems and there is no possible "global agenda" that can solve them.
Phat writes:
I even asked ringo point blank in an earlier thread the following questions:
Why would you repeat your questions and my answers that make you look stupid?
And why can't you refute my answers?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Theodoric
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Message 62 of 153 (906126)
02-07-2023 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by ringo
02-07-2023 11:28 AM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
He is too stupid to realize he is stupid. He is not smart enough to understand that he does not understand what he attempts to talk about. That is why we get stupid posts like the Santa Claus one. It is a feeble attempt to cover up his utter lack of understanding of even basic concepts.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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xongsmith
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Message 63 of 153 (906129)
02-07-2023 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Taq
02-07-2023 10:42 AM


Re: The Filthy Greedy Rich
I seem to have a need to repost some thoughts i put in Quora. People on the Right ask "Just what do you think is a fair tax?"
probably the same up to $400,000 as is now.
From 400 to 1 million bracket: %50
From 1 million to 100 million: %70
From 100 million to 400 million: %90
From 400 million to 1 billion: %95
From 1 billion to 2 billion: %99
Over 2 billion: Executed by Firing Squad LIVE on National TV
and so far no one has objected.
C'Est La Guerre

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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ringo
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Message 64 of 153 (906130)
02-07-2023 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by xongsmith
02-07-2023 12:09 PM


Re: The Filthy Greedy Rixh
xongsmith writes:
Over 2 billion: Executed by Firing Squad LIVE on National TV
and so far no one has objected.
On principle, I object to capital punishment. But when some people die, like Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Trump, etc., I don't shed any tears.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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Phat
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Message 65 of 153 (906140)
02-07-2023 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Theodoric
02-07-2023 10:58 AM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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jar
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Message 66 of 153 (906145)
02-07-2023 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Theodoric
02-07-2023 11:55 AM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Phat is not stupid.
He is willfully stupid.

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AZPaul3
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Message 67 of 153 (906146)
02-07-2023 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by jar
02-07-2023 5:43 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
But he is still salvageable. He just needs help.
Some replumbing of his inner fluids followed by an intensive stint at an atheist bootcamp and maybe a few BabyFest Gala dinners.
We can save this guy from his fantasy. Don't give up, yet.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Theodoric
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Message 68 of 153 (906147)
02-07-2023 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by AZPaul3
02-07-2023 6:59 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Nope

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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AZPaul3
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Message 69 of 153 (906148)
02-07-2023 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Theodoric
02-07-2023 7:05 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Hey, I'm trying to put together a group for a BabyFest dinner. You're not helping any.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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jar
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Message 70 of 153 (906149)
02-07-2023 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by AZPaul3
02-07-2023 7:29 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
And I had never heard of Baby Fest.

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AZPaul3
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Message 71 of 153 (906150)
02-07-2023 11:32 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by jar
02-07-2023 8:00 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
BabyFests, not to be confused with the new mother marketing gig, are annual dinners, hosted in various regions, where atheists gather to plan world domination and eat christian babies. Then in November we have the BabyFest Gala where the national steering committees meet, conduct our national induction ceremonies (crossing over the Hitchens Bridge) and eating more christian babies. Great food, great music, great fun.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Tanypteryx
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Message 72 of 153 (906151)
02-08-2023 12:24 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by AZPaul3
02-07-2023 11:32 PM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
He's making up the part about world domination.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Theodoric
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Message 73 of 153 (906153)
02-08-2023 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Tanypteryx
02-08-2023 12:24 AM


Re: Dissolve The Bill And Move On
Way to much work for us atheists. We all know we like to just sit around and get free government money. Unlike those moral, responsible, hard working, excess tax paying christians.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Phat
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Message 74 of 153 (906158)
02-08-2023 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Tanypteryx
02-08-2023 12:24 AM


Domination or Dominionism?
Tanypteryx writes:
He's making up the part about world domination.
I cant obviously speak about all atheists...any more than I could speak about ALL Americans or ALL Chinese. From what I see ideologically from my friends who have publically professed either atheism or support for atheist/humanist values, they advocate freedom from religion. They by and large are against Christian Nationalism. I had to read up on what accusations were being made by liberals and conservatives regarding this idea.
This from the Texas Observer:
The Radical Theology That Could Make Religious Freedom a Thing of the Past
Even devout Christians should fear these influential leaders' refusal to separate church and state.
It looks like the movement was started by hardline Christians themselves.
Texas Observer:
What began as a fringe evangelical sect in the 1970s has seen its influence mushroom — so much so that sociologist Sara Diamond has called dominionism “the central unifying ideology for the Christian Right.” (Italics hers.) That’s especially true here in Texas, where dominionist beliefs have, over the last decade, become part and parcel of right-wing politics at the highest levels of government. (...)Dominionism fundamentally opposes America’s venerable tradition of church-state separation — in fact, dominionists deny the Founders ever intended that separation in the first place. According to Frederick Clarkson, senior fellow for religious liberty at the non-profit social justice think tank Political Research Associates, dominionists believe that Christians “have a biblical mandate to control all earthly institutions — including government — until the second coming of Jesus.” And that should worry all Texans — Christians and non-Christians alike.
Seems to me that the atheists I know don't want to dominate anything (except the elections! ) but they *do* want to keep the far right radical dominionists out of power as well. Which seems reasonable.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 75 of 153 (906160)
02-08-2023 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by jar
02-07-2023 5:43 PM


Pieces Parts
Nah not stupid. Stubborn!
I can come across as a hardline CCoI at times, but I read more books than they do.
You will likely argue that I don't critically read but instead pick pieces parts and place them in my own preferred context. Which I will say I am guilty of at times.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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