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Author Topic:   Coffee House Musings on Creationist Topic Proposals
ringo
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Message 1402 of 1429 (904865)
01-09-2023 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1400 by Phat
01-09-2023 8:10 AM


Re: On A Similar Note...
Phat writes:
... you could explain how the entire RCC selection process for a new Pope got hijacked by the evil one.
"They stole the election!"

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 1404 of 1429 (905334)
01-23-2023 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1403 by Dredge
01-23-2023 11:43 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
Please cite a scientific paper that states that the use of cow and pig insulin in humans would have been impossible without the theory of UCD.
I already answered that. We wouldn't expect to find any papers that say we couldn't have gotten to the moon without the theory of gravity. It's a silly demand.
Dredge writes:
Please cite a scientific paper that states that no creationist or no common-descent denier has ever produced a useful idea about biology.
Likewise, we wouldn't expect to find any papers saying that the earth is not flat. It's a silly demand.
The onus is on you to cite any scientific paper in which any creationist or any science-denier has ever produced any useful idea about biology.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1419 of 1429 (905962)
02-05-2023 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1414 by Dredge
02-05-2023 12:35 AM


Re: On A Similar Note...
Dredge writes:
Ken Ham must have evolved from a pig, so why the hell do you claim he evolved from an ape?
I see you're another one of those creationist dupes who doesn't understand the difference between an ancestor and a cousin. Maybe you don't understand family relationships because you're an only child?
Everybody has grandparents but not everybody has uncles and aunts or cousins.
On my mother's side alone, I had seven aunts and four uncles by blood, plus seven uncles and four aunts by marriage. And they produced forty-seven cousins.
My cousins are not my grandparents. There is a direct line of descent from my grandparents to my parents to me - and there are other SEPARATE direct lines of descent from my grandparents to my aunts and uncles to my cousins. But there is NO line of descent between my cousins and me.
This understanding comes easily when there are so many of us. It may be difficult for you if you have no cousins.
So no, we are not evolved from apes. We are their cousins, not their grandchildren. We are evolved from common ancestors.
And no, we are not evolved from pigs. We are their cousins, not their grandchildren. We are evolved from common ancestors.
Your hero, the idiot Kleinman, is afraid to discuss this because it will only make him look stupider.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1425 of 1429 (905986)
02-06-2023 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1409 by Dredge
02-04-2023 2:51 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge writes:
In other words, you can cite the grand total of ZERO scientific papers that support your claim ...
Never mind trying to put "other words" in my mouth. Read the words I actually say.
I have made no claim. I have stated scientific fact. I have also told you that EVERY scientific fact does not necessarily correspond with a specific paper. We don't need papers that say the earth is round or water is wet because those facts are pretty well-known.
Dredge writes:
ringo writes:
The onus is on you to cite any scientific paper in which any creationist or any science-denier has ever produced any useful idea about biology.
No, Einstein, that's not how it works ... you made the claim, so the onus is on you to back it up with some scientific evidence.
That's EXACTLY how it works. YOU have made the claim that disagrees with all scientific knowledge. YOU are the one that has to back that up. I am in no way obligated to back up the fact that the earth is round or that water is wet.
Dredge writes:
But you won't, bcoz you can't, which makes you a typical Darwinoid - ie, a bs-artist, a con-man and a charlatan.
And you're a 9-IQ creationist, so nobody cares what you think.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 1426 of 1429 (905988)
02-06-2023 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1420 by Dredge
02-06-2023 9:53 AM


Re: On A Similar Note...
Dredge writes:
... and none of those relatives want to know you.
As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 1427 of 1429 (905989)
02-06-2023 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1421 by Dredge
02-06-2023 10:01 AM


Re: On A Similar Note...
Dredge writes:
Right ... just like Cupid and the Tooth Fairy evolved from common ancestors. Got it.
It's funny that you don't even realize you're contradicting yourself.
You have admitted that we are related to cows and pigs. Being related MEANS we have a common ancestor. It's the DEFINITION of the word "related". The fact that you don't understand that just confirms your low intelligence.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 1429 of 1429 (906122)
02-07-2023 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1428 by Phat
02-07-2023 10:32 AM


Re: On A Similar Note...
Phat writes:
Well, I can prove that Santa Claus evolved from my common ancestors.
What the hell are you talking about? You've shown three different DRAWINGS of Santa Claus, nothing whatsoever to do with evolution.
Dredge is confused enough already.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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