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Message 344 of 444 (846862)
01-12-2019 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 343 by Faith
01-12-2019 3:36 PM


That is one screwed up christianity you practice there.
Like most rightist demagogues you seem willfully blind to any human suffering but your own.

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Message 362 of 444 (847100)
01-18-2019 7:35 AM
Reply to: Message 361 by Pressie
01-18-2019 5:57 AM


Having more children than you can afford to feed and educate. That's about it.
The US also has that problem.
No. We can afford to feed and educate our children. It's just that, instead, we choose, consciously, deliberately, to give our nation's wealth to the already mega-rich instead of funding food and education programs.
I suppose it's the same thing happening in our neighbors to the south. But they've been doing that for centuries while we're relatively new at this. Our broader society is still quite wealthy compared to others. We haven't totally fixed that defect (non-elite having some actual economic means) ... yet ... but our mega-wealthy are diligently working at it.

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Message 392 of 444 (905819)
02-04-2023 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 387 by riVeRraT
02-03-2023 11:23 PM


No, it gave me the answer I thought was correct ...
So the toy seemed to you to confirm your anti-science right-wing bias regardless of how it factually responded.
You dim witted religionist fascists are big on confirmation bias. You see it everywhere you can manipulate the narrative. You see it burnt onto burritos, for god sake.
If someone could show me why I am wrong, I will change my mind.
No you won't. You already know the difference between faith and fact but vehemently deny it because it destroys your god.
If god herself came down and told you she was but a figment of your imagination, a fake deity as are all deities, you would deny her very existence refusing to hear her.
Facts and reality mean nothing to you, Rat. There is nothing in the fake heaven or the real earth, or in your toy conversation piece, that would make you change your closed mediocre little mind.

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AZPaul3
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Message 395 of 444 (905882)
02-04-2023 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 393 by riVeRraT
02-04-2023 12:35 PM


If I ask you if the sun will rise tomorrow, you cannot tell me with 100% certainty that it will until it is observed. You have to believe it will.
No, you religious fanatic. We can extrapolate from experience and have a near certain confidence that the physics will work as it always has.
The only ones who dabble in 100% certainty are religious idiots certain of their ghost's voice in their heads.
If I tell you there is a heaven, I cannot say it with 100% certainty, we can only believe there is.
No. You have 0% certainty since you have no evidentiary basis to form such a ridiculous conjecture. Without evidence your heaven is 0% certain, 100% non-existent.
FYI my whole life is based on observation and fact. Cannot live without it.
Oh bullshit! You believe in non-existent ghosts, demons, devils and more all in contradiction to the facts. Do you have talking snakes or jesus meat crackers in your version of reality?
You love facts? How old is the earth? What is the last common ancestor to both humans and elephants? What does the CMB tell us of the structure of the universe?
There are facts (not opinions or guesses or beliefs or hopes or dreams) to answer every one of these questions. If you love facts then you will know these answers, why these answers are as they are and know that you haven't the capacity to challenge the science involved.

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AZPaul3
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Message 397 of 444 (905887)
02-04-2023 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 396 by riVeRraT
02-04-2023 10:12 PM


There is plenty of evidence God exist, it's just subjective.
Which means your evidence doesn't exist. Neither, then, does your god.

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Message 398 of 444 (905888)
02-04-2023 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 396 by riVeRraT
02-04-2023 10:12 PM


Zero probability would prove God doesn't exist. Nothing in science is ever proven.
No, religious idiot. Nothing is proven. Zero probability means we have a great deal of confidence that your ghost is not there.

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Message 402 of 444 (905897)
02-05-2023 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 399 by riVeRraT
02-04-2023 10:53 PM


Faith = Religious Stupidity
Definition of "near certain confidence" = high level of trust = high level of faith = faith.
First faith = stupidity, not confidence.
Faith is the emotional hope something will happen by wishful thinking regardless of reality. Confidence is the intellectual knowledge of workings and the reasonable expectation of coming events. Your errant religious view is not but self-serving bull.
I realize you have problems with the difference. You know the superiority of science over faith. That is why the science that keeps denying your god must be seen dragged down to the non-intellectual realm of faith.
In your eyes science must be seen as a faith derivative so that it fails to destroy your god. Too late.
Science stands far above faith, divination, your religious lies, as the source of knowledge of reality. Your priests have divined nothing in their millennia of rule over humanity. Your religion creates only war and bloodshed. Faith has yielded nothing but torture and pain.
I have evidence, it's just subjective. Just like my love for my children is subjective.
Then you do not have evidence. Subjective is your emotional judgement, not reality. Your emotion has no force in this world and means nothing to the operations of the universe.
That's right, Rat. Your emotions don't mean jack shit to this universe. Subjective means you have nothing.
You have no position to try and make assumptions about me ...
Of course I can. You are a religious nutjob. You have said so many time in these threads. That means you have a glaring intellectual deficiency discerning reality. You insist on ghosts despite the physical reality showing otherwise.
You have a screw loose in your brain; a defect of mental structure that covers reality from your view and causes you to misthink fantastic stupidities without correction.
You are a religionist, Rat, and that means your intellect processing power, critical thinking skills and knowledge base are not just deficient but pose dangers to the rest of society.
Frankly, these 'assumptions' about you are glaringly obvious, quite rightly made and accurate.
yet all you do is try to offend me. Am I wrong, if I am, then I am still right.
You are an offensive person. You are a liar perpetrating your religion as an evil fantasy in the human psyche. History has shown your religious thought fosters nothing but schism, blood and torture for humanity.
As a purveyor of religious stupidity you are an evil offensive person and should be treated as such.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 407 of 444 (905905)
02-05-2023 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 405 by xongsmith
02-05-2023 10:03 AM


Re: Faith = Religious Stupidity
Phat writes:
...Try Star Wars. Try Star Trek. Many Nerds worship that stuff!...
xongsmith writes:
No True Nerd does!
Well ... define worship.
You know us true nerds do worship the genre. Firefly is playing. Got to worship that show. But not in the religious zealous way Phat wants to imaging but more like the worship I used to give my girls ... lower regions ... reveling in the thoughts of the gifts I was about to receive. That kinda delicious happy worship.

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Message 416 of 444 (905919)
02-05-2023 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 411 by Phat
02-05-2023 10:36 AM


Re: Faith = Religious Stupidity
Having a strong curiosity, most scientists are motivated by acknowledgement; seen as right by their peers. Ego and reputation are major concerns. And since in science you receive the highest accolades for being right the scientist's biggest and best motivation is to be right.
Priests, contrary, are concerned with being wrong. The wrong god, the wrong sex, the wrong way to have sex, etc.

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Message 427 of 444 (905992)
02-06-2023 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 424 by riVeRraT
02-06-2023 10:29 AM


I was talking about science, you are talking about mathematics, what is your point?
Is there a difference? Are you really so gone dumb that you think these are separate? Math is the tool. It is the language of science. They are inseparable.
And yes, 0% probability is not absolute certainty any more than 100% probability. But you have to understand math and science to understand why.
I don't think you have the capacity to comprehend. You have that religious screw loose in your head that keeps you from seeing reality.

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AZPaul3
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Message 431 of 444 (906001)
02-06-2023 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 428 by riVeRraT
02-06-2023 11:05 AM


Re: Faith = Religious Stupidity
Your posts do nothing to help society, you are the reason wars happen, not religion. Atheists churches are the evolution of the way men think, they inherently do not get along, and that is the reason for war. Not the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, or God. Go take a look in the mirror, it says riVeRraT.
Talk about a disconnect from reality. You've really gone off the deep end, haven't you. All the work you put into that screed only to pop another inanity at the end.
Yes, yes, my atheist megachurch has a war council going and I have to go give numbers on how many babies we need for this years gala, Baby Fest 2023, come November.
The right wing in this country is so fuckin sick.
If you're offended then good. You should be. You are a prime example of how religion has poisoned the human psyche. You not only profess an asinine belief in fantasy you spread that disease in these forums.
Be gone evil one.

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Message 436 of 444 (906006)
02-06-2023 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 430 by riVeRraT
02-06-2023 11:15 AM


Re: Faith = Religious Stupidity
Their biggest motivation should be to have the scientific method work properly.
You know there is no one scientific method? There are a lot of them. Each one specifically designed custom for a specific project. Yes, they pretty much all follow a set of parameters, and peer review will determine if a specific method is appropriate to the experimental design being studied.
In science, everything has to work properly in order to get it right. That's why there is a method. That's why there is a protocol for statistical analysis. That's why the design is set up as it is. If it is ALL done right then the scientist has reached the required minimum.

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Message 441 of 444 (906030)
02-06-2023 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 438 by riVeRraT
02-06-2023 11:58 AM


Science is subjective, requires faith, and the scientific method is not.
Only in your twisted little religious world. You missed the entire world of reality, didn't you?
Science is your superior. Science drives faith to its knees and explodes reality into the light where you try to hide your gods. They are still missing.

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