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Author Topic:   Conversations with God
ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 472 of 530 (905241)
01-20-2023 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 465 by Phat
01-18-2023 11:24 PM


Re: Personal Privacy vs Public Shaming
Phat writes:
Why must the media protect one and not the other?
They don't. Only a Trump-lover would think they do.
Phat writes:
And why are conservatives more likely to be idiots...
I have answered that question several times before, quoting John Stuart Mill. To paraphrase, conservatives don't have to be idiots but idiots tend to be conservative.
Conservatism looks for simple answers. The evil need simple answers to convince the simple-minded.
And conservatives are usually wrong because complex questions seldom have simple answers.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 481 of 530 (905300)
01-22-2023 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 473 by Phat
01-20-2023 12:42 PM


Re: Conersations With Ted (Cruz)
Phat writes:
Ted Cruz recently took on your beloved AOC
She isn't my "beloved AOC". I never heard of her until you called her a "harpy". And I'm still waiting for you to explain why you called her a "harpy" (along with Kamala Harris) when you didn't even know what the word meant. Answer that question before you post any more stupid videos.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 482 of 530 (905301)
01-22-2023 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 480 by Phat
01-21-2023 7:50 AM


Re: Conversations
Phat writes:
Cruz may be the son of immigrants but he has every right to tough opinions on immigration.
To his dying day, my father supported the internment of Japanese Canadians (and Americans) during the war. Many of them had been BORN in Canada (or the US) of Japanese immigrants.
The irony: My father himself was born in Canada of German immigrants. By his own logic, HE should have been interned too.
Children of immigrants do have a right to stupid opinions. We don't need to look stupid by defending them.
Phat writes:
What you and Damselfly fail to grasp is the necessity of a two party system to preserve nationalism and prevent social democratic globalism from defining the destiny and meaning of our Republic.
You and your primitive two-party system.
1. A two-party system does not necessarily preserve nationalism.
2. Nationalism is not necessarily a good thing.
3. A two-party system does not necessarily prevent globalism.
4. Globalism is not necessarily a bad thing.
5. Get more parties.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 483 of 530 (905302)
01-22-2023 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 478 by Tanypteryx
01-20-2023 11:21 PM


Re: Conersations With Ted (Cruz)
Phat writes:
Watching him self-radicalize I find to be personally alarming, along with his expanding lack of self-awareness.
I wonder when he's going to start doing his hair like Trump.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 510 of 530 (905460)
01-27-2023 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 484 by Phat
01-24-2023 2:37 PM


Re: Conersations With Ted (Cruz)
Phat writes:
Ted Cruz dismantles a Biden nominee once again.
Tell us how.
Phat writes:
this whole gender identity pickle that the liberals seem to embrace
You have it backwards. Conservatives have created a "gender identity pickle" where there is no reason for it to exist. What business is it of yours how somebody else identifies themselves? Why do you even need to mention it? Why does Ted Cruz even have an opinion on the subject?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 511 of 530 (905461)
01-27-2023 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 485 by Phat
01-24-2023 2:41 PM


Re: Conversations
Phat writes:
Perhaps, but you owe it to yourselves to at least hear the arguments before criticizing them.
Why don't you PRESENT the arguments?
Phat writes:
ringo writes:
Nationalism is not necessarily a good thing.
Nor is globalism necessarily a good thing.
Globalism is a REAL thing. There's no way to prevent it. It's a done deal. Nationalism can be, and should be, avoided.
Phat writes:
ringo writes:
A two-party system does not necessarily prevent globalism.
True. It was initially George HW Bush who proposed a "New World Order".
Are you twelve years old? Hitler used the term.
Phat writes:
ringo writes:
Globalism is not necessarily a bad thing.
It is if it runs over the US middle class.
What's so special about the US middle class that it deserves a pass from reality?
To repeat, globalism IS. Whatever the consequences to the US middle class, globalism IS.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 512 of 530 (905463)
01-27-2023 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 488 by Phat
01-24-2023 3:16 PM


Re: Conersations With Ted (Cruz)
Phat writes:
We are not simply going to suffer in order to be the heroes that save the planet.
Yes. We are.
Even IF we manage to alleviate the situation somewhat, we are going to suffer.
Phat writes:
The entire world must share the bill.
Don't be stupid. YOU have no power to make the rest of the world do anything. You can only do what YOU can do.
If the wonderful US middle class foots the WHOLE bill and single-handedly stops global warming, it will be for YOUR benefit. So what if the rest of the world rides on your coat-tails and shares the benefits?
And if NOBODY but the wonderful US middle class lifts a finger and human civilization is destroyed, it will be YOU who suffers. So what if you have the rest of the world to blame? What do you gain by assigning blame?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 513 of 530 (905464)
01-27-2023 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 504 by Phat
01-25-2023 5:28 PM


Re: Conersations With Ted (Cruz)
Phat writes:
all politicians and commentators are biased in favor of their own ideology
As I have said before, ideologies are for lazy thinkers. That's why conservatism is an ideology. No need to think. Just look it up in Mein Trumpf.
Liberalism, on the other hand, is an ideal.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 514 of 530 (905465)
01-27-2023 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 501 by Phat
01-25-2023 8:36 AM


Re: Conversations
Phat writes:
you will see the groundswell of opposition to such authority
I have mentioned before, I have a book called The Illustrated History of the Third Reich. It has a photograph from the 1920s of a group of protestors, one of whom is holding up a sign, Es kommt der Tag der Abrechnung. Translation: "There will come a day of reckoning".
It did.
Be careful what you wish for.

(Disclaimer: I used Google Translate to reverse-engineer the quote from my memory of the translation.)

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 523 of 530 (905551)
01-30-2023 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 515 by Phat
01-29-2023 3:18 PM


Re: Authoritarianism:What Phat Means
Phat writes:
I see where we all disagree on what I mean by authoritarianism.
Because the rest of us are using the actual definition. You are using one you made up as an excuse to hate democracy.
Phat writes:
The reason that I see Democrats as authoritarian is because ...
The reason you see Democrats as authoritarian is because you're blinded by hatred.
Phat writes:
... the elite within the party are becoming less for Americans...
Not just the "elite", I hope it's all of them becoming less prejudiced toward Americans and more for what is good.
Phat writes:
... seem to ignore constitutional responsibilities...
It's the republicans who ignore constitutuional responsibilities, like not overthrowing the duly-elected government, not killing the Speaker of the House, that sort of thing.
Phat writes:
... in favor of global responsibilities.
And you accuse ME of trying to avoid responsibility.
You DO live on the globe, you know. You WILL have to face the consequences of everybody's global responsibilities, you know.
You should stop listening to right-wing lies.
Phat writes:
Of, by and for the people refers to citizens of the US first rather than global citizens.
Not really. That sounds like you're advocating the US being a rogue nation.
Phat writes:
Just as a man would feed his family before he fed the guys at the park.
A good man would teach his family to feed the guys at the park.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 524 of 530 (905552)
01-30-2023 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 516 by Phat
01-29-2023 3:26 PM


Re: Conversations with ringo:Liberal idealist
Phat writes:
Does He expect me to remain poor simply to pay off the bill and bring everybody (even globally) up into my neighborhood?
Yup.
Phat writes:
Is that what He means when He suggests that I deny myself??
What else could he possibly mean? How could you deny yourself without denying yourself?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 526 of 530 (905554)
01-30-2023 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 518 by Phat
01-29-2023 3:33 PM


Re: Conersations With Ted (Cruz)
Phat writes:
I just noticed this reply...
They are flagged, you know. that's how I notice yours.
Phat writes:
As expected, you said just what I thought you would say.
If you always know what I'm going to say, why don't you pre-emptively reply to what I say? Why do you just repeat the same ol same old as if i hadn't said anything at all?
Phat writes:
The populists, who love Trump, will protest the unfairness of such an arraignment and will elect a new president Fuhrer and ruin the party for everyone.
But we know that isn't true. Your beloved Fuhrer was rejected in 2020.
Phat writes:
You claim I am one of them, but I don't want that!
And yet you agree with Trump on everything. Why don't you ever respond to that?

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 528 of 530 (905863)
02-04-2023 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 527 by Phat
02-04-2023 12:34 PM


Re: I wish I'd have thought of that
Phat writes:
I wish I'd have thought of that
So do I.

Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie

This message is a reply to:
 Message 527 by Phat, posted 02-04-2023 12:34 PM Phat has not replied

  
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