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Dredge
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Message 552 of 1197 (904796)
01-07-2023 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 527 by Taq
11-21-2022 10:52 AM


Taq writes:
Once you discover a natural cause that is supported by mountains of evidence you accept the natural cause as the best explanation. 
... except no one has discovered a natural cause for the changes in life-forms evident in the fossil record.
All you clowns have is flawed theory based on a far-fetched nineteenth-century idea.

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Message 560 of 1197 (905195)
01-19-2023 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 553 by Tanypteryx
01-07-2023 1:44 PM


Dredge writes:
no one has discovered a natural cause for the changes in life-forms evident in the fossil record.
Tanypteryx writes:
Sure they have
That's a stupid lie. All you have is a theory ... a theory is not a discovery.
You Darwinoid con-men can't tell the truth.
"You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires ... When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies." John 8:44-45
And hundreds of museums and libraries stuffed with supporting evidence for a robust 21st century theory.
A "robust" theory? ... only if you ignore all its weaknesses! Another stupid Darwinoid lie.

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Message 562 of 1197 (905197)
01-19-2023 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 555 by GDR
01-07-2023 7:39 PM


GDR writes:
Quick question Dredge. I'm trying to understand exactly what you do believe. Is it instant creationism, is it a guided evolutionary program or is it intelligent design as per the Discovery Institute? If the latter can you outline your view of that belief.
Also why do you hold that belief in light of your Christian faith?
I believe life started as a miracle and that life could not exist without intelligent design.
(As hard as it is to accept, even atheists and Darwinoids are the result of intelligent design.)
I accept the scientific evidence that suggests life on earth started as simple forms, and as time (possibly millions-billions of years) went by, more complex and diverse life-forms appeared.
What process was responsible for the appearance of those life-forms cannot ever be known ... however, I'm sure neo-Darwinism isn't the answer. I suspect the aforementioned changes in life-forms were the result of divine intervention.
I believe (neo-)Darwinism is a demonically-inspired cult, the aim of which is to promote atheism (therefore it comes as no surprise that that cult is riddled with con-men, charlatans and liars).

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Message 564 of 1197 (905199)
01-19-2023 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 561 by ringo
01-19-2023 12:56 PM


ringoat writes:
So you calling it a "stupid lie" is just stupid. And a lie.
Please be advised that saying that my "stupid lie" comment is "just stupid" and "a lie" is a stupid lie.
Stop lying stupidly is good advice from me to you, who needs help dealing with reality.

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Message 577 of 1197 (905282)
01-22-2023 12:04 AM
Reply to: Message 558 by Taq
01-09-2023 10:43 AM


Dredge writes:
... except no one has discovered a natural cause for the changes in life-forms evident in the fossil record.
Taq writes:
​Here it is:
Human Genetics Confirms Mutations as the Drivers of Diversity and Evolution – EvoGrad – EvoGrad
The differences between species have been shown to be due to the natural mechanisms we see creating mutations in living populations.
Taq the con-man is at it again ...
This is about the 3rd time you've presented the same argument by Steve Schaffner. You seem to be running out of ideas.
Schaffner's argument is just a theory ... it doesn't prove that science has discovered what process was responsible for the changes in life-forms evident in the fossil record. News flash: A theory is not a discovery.
Furthermore, Schaffner's argument doesn't extend to the evolution of different phyla ... it merely relates to the alleged common ancestor of humans and chimps.
And guess what, dum-dum? It's impossible for anyone to discover what process was responsible for the changes in life-forms evident in the fossil record ... although that fact doesn't deter Darwinoid charlatans like you from claiming otherwise.
Incidentally, the EvoGrad blog(?) you cited is a joke ... the Darwinoid author states that he chooses to remain anonymous, so his credibility goes down the drain right there.
Then he declares that he's an atheist ... which means his views on evolution will be characterised by extreme bias, delusional fantasies, pseudo-science, false claims and almost certainly, outright lies.

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Message 578 of 1197 (905283)
01-22-2023 12:12 AM
Reply to: Message 553 by Tanypteryx
01-07-2023 1:44 PM


I think you're taking this insect thing way too far. It's all well and good to study insects ... and to even give yourself the taxonomic name of an insect genus ... but to actually start thinking like an insect, well that's not a good idea at all.

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Message 581 of 1197 (905701)
02-02-2023 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 579 by Tanypteryx
01-22-2023 12:17 PM


Furthermore, do you really think restricting your diet to insects is wise?

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Dredge
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Message 584 of 1197 (905972)
02-06-2023 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 574 by dwise1
01-20-2023 11:17 AM


dwise1 writes:
"Observe Dredge. DON'T BE THAT GUY!"
That's sound advice.

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Message 585 of 1197 (905973)
02-06-2023 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 583 by Stile
02-02-2023 12:03 PM


Stale writes:
I would suggest that if you require "meaning" to extend beyond this existence and into the next in order to be meaningful... then you are egotistical and without honour.
Your suggestion is shallow, stupid and absurd ... not to mention shallow, stupid and absurd.
Life has meaning only if it's eternal. A finite life is as meaningless as meaningless can get.
For Pete's sake, grow up and think.

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Dredge
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Message 590 of 1197 (906039)
02-06-2023 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 588 by Theodoric
02-06-2023 12:31 PM


Theodorkic writes:
I look around at my family and friends. I look at the beauty of the world around me.
You're confusing feelings and emotions with meaning.

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Message 592 of 1197 (906052)
02-06-2023 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 587 by AZPaul3
02-06-2023 10:46 AM


APauling666 writes:
What sick religious drivel.
Suddenly I feel sick.
Life has meaning and value because it is fleeting.
Stupid, irrational nonsense. APauling. Never say that again.
We don't need “purpose” from the universe.
Well, on the contrary, it seems that "we" do - I wish I had a dollar for every atheist who mindlessly but vehmently insists that their life has meaning.
In other words, it's evident they do indeed "need 'purpose' from the universe."
The vast majority of atheists don't have the courage to face up to the implications of their own beliefs. If I were an atheist, I would accept that life is utterly pointless and meaningless ... and therefore worthless.
We’re freer and it is more noble, admirable, to give point to our lives ourselves rather than accept it from your fictitious sky pimp.
Firstly, I didn't say anything about God.
Secondly, not even God can give a finite life meaning ... if God said to me, "I'll give you 80 years of life, and after you die there is nothing forevermore", I would still consider that 80 years to be meaningless.
Only an eternity gives life meaning. Sorry.

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Message 593 of 1197 (906053)
02-06-2023 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 589 by dwise1
02-06-2023 12:47 PM


Firstly, what the hell are you talking about, unwise1? Have you been drinking?
Secondly, I think you must be confusing me with someone else.

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Message 595 of 1197 (906057)
02-06-2023 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 586 by Taq
02-06-2023 10:46 AM


Taq writes:
Just because you can't find meaning in a finite life does not prevent others from finding meaning in a finite life.
Since a finite life is meaningless, it doesn't matter if one finds meaning in it or not. All thoughts are meaningless.
Given the ignorance you have spread on this forum
Huh???? Er, no ... not me. I haven't spread any ignorance on this forum. I am a fount of knowledge, reason, wisdom and truth.
I doubt your opinion on these matters would sway anyone.
An atheist's capacity for self-delusion is a powerful thing.

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Dredge
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Message 596 of 1197 (906058)
02-06-2023 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 594 by Tanypteryx
02-06-2023 2:21 PM


Tanypteryx writes:
Your life seems utterly pointless and meaningless and therefore worthless.
According to your atheist beliefs, you're right ... all life is utterly pointless and meaningless and therefore worthless.

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Message 599 of 1197 (906065)
02-06-2023 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 597 by Tanypteryx
02-06-2023 2:48 PM


The atheist's anthem ... "We're on a road to nowhere", song by Talking Heads, 1985.
The road of meaninglessness.

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