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Theodoric
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Message 907 of 1864 (902348)
11-21-2022 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 905 by Theodoric
11-21-2022 7:44 PM


Re: Let's start simple
Were Chariot Wheels Found at the Bottom of the Red Sea? | Snopes.com

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 914 of 1864 (902590)
11-25-2022 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 913 by candle2
11-25-2022 1:10 PM


Re: Any corroborating evidence?
Ron Wyatt is not the reason that I came to believe that
that the crossing was at Nuweiba Beach.
Is was a known liar and scam artist. There is evidence to support this. He never provided any evidence. No one has seen any chariot wheels there. There are huge scientific issues with the concept of coral encrusted chariot wheels and a golden wheel. Still waiting for an explanation of the functionality of a golden chariot wheel.
NASA's report of the "thin red line" in the early 90's is
what convinced me. This was the first time that I took
a serious look at the route of the Exodus.
this does not exist. It is not true. It is a lie.
Yes, several individuals have published photos of them.
Why then have they not been retrieved and examines. More lies.
Do I believe that much of the evidence at Jebel al Lawz
exists?

Yes. A number of individual have seen and
photographed the evidence.
Random photos are not evidence. Evidence needs to be subjected to scientific rigor. If they were true they would have been verified.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 919 of 1864 (902685)
11-26-2022 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by Phat
11-26-2022 4:13 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
You don't even understand what conservatism is. You are a reactionary not a conservative.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 923 of 1864 (902993)
11-29-2022 2:37 PM
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11-29-2022 12:08 PM


Re: Any corroborating evidence?
There is no thin line to be found. Either you are lying, misunderstood what was said, or fell for a hoax.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 926 of 1864 (903014)
11-30-2022 8:05 AM
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11-30-2022 7:42 AM


Re: Any corroborating evidence?
That is not how it works. You have not even presented evidence that anything like this even existed. We know nothing about this other than what you said. You have not even presented anything to rebuke. We can not prove or disprove your fever dreams.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 929 of 1864 (903018)
11-30-2022 9:21 AM
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11-30-2022 8:39 AM


Re: Any corroborating evidence?
Provide a source and evidence. All you have done is assert. There is no evidence for any of your claims. None. If there were you would present the evidence.
You are so gullible that you actually believe chemicals
created life, without the tiniest smidgen of proof.
Not the subject we are trying to discuss. Please stay on topic. If you want to show your ignorance of science post a comment to the many science threads available. But here you need to stay on topic.
Work on your own corny beliefs before trying to convince
others that their beliefs are wrong.
You are presenting your beliefs as facts. You can believe whatever wild-ass shit you want. What you can not do is expect anyone else to accept those unevidenced beliefs as facts.
Show us actual evidence of this trail.
Only the most ignorant would believe that chemicals could
create life.
Again, please stay on topic and display your ignorance of other subjects in the correct topics.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 937 of 1864 (903083)
12-03-2022 12:31 PM
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12-03-2022 11:35 AM


Re: Any corroborating evidence?
Well as we have evidence that chemicals interact without any outside influence, we have proof if concept. We have absolutely no evidence for some sort of ethereal, sky daddy.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 945 of 1864 (903104)
12-04-2022 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 943 by Phat
12-04-2022 8:59 AM


Re: Back To The Trinity (Remix)
You have devolved to spewing word salad. Again, or maybe I should say still.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 948 of 1864 (903112)
12-04-2022 1:46 PM
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12-04-2022 1:21 PM


Re: Back To The Trinity (Remix)
But that post said nothing. It was random incoherent thoughts with no reasoning, argument or facts to support it. You comments of evolution and enlightenment were a mixture of equivocation and nonsense.
There is a huge difference between Carrier and Dalio. Carrier is a peer reviewed academic, writing within his expertise. Dalio is a rich guy that has no expertise in what he is writing about trying to turn pithy phrases stock comments into some sort of new age tech homespun wisdom.
Your so called experts are never experts. I am not going to take my time to demolish them when others have done a much better job. I never heard of Dalio before you posted about him. Why would I read or listen to him when he is just some rich yahoo spouting crap. I researcehed him, found out he was a rich pretentious ass and decided he was not worth wasting my time. Am I not able to discount Nick Fuentes because I have not actually listened to him or read what he has written.
Go ahead criticize Carrier. What is wrong with what he has written? Why should you discount it?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 958 of 1864 (903137)
12-04-2022 6:16 PM
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12-04-2022 2:40 PM


Re: Back To The Trinity (Remix)
You obviously have not read what he has written
Henl is just presenting and exploring the evidence. That is how science works. It leads where it leads.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 974 of 1864 (905053)
01-15-2023 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 973 by dwise1
01-14-2023 11:48 PM


Re: Simplistically Speaking
Creos and fundies are unable to understand that laws and theories are accurate until they are not. Then science adjusts the laws and theories to incorporate the new data. The whole concept is not thrown away.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 995 of 1864 (905174)
01-19-2023 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 994 by Taq
01-19-2023 11:42 AM


Re: The Limitations Of Good And Evil Behaviors
Why would anyone want to be a mindless zombie?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1007 of 1864 (905214)
01-19-2023 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1006 by Phat
01-19-2023 4:01 PM


Re: The Limitations Of Good And Evil Behaviors
But we can and I have.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1017 of 1864 (905245)
01-20-2023 1:32 PM


Apologetics whew!
Evidently a synonym for apologetics is "making shit up".

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1027 of 1864 (905266)
01-21-2023 10:39 AM


The god of the christian books is evil. Q.E.D.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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