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Message 839 of 901 (904851)
01-09-2023 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 838 by Theodoric
01-09-2023 8:46 AM


Re: Say What?
Sometimes you guys are as subtle as a Mack Truck!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 841 of 901 (904853)
01-09-2023 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 840 by Theodoric
01-09-2023 9:57 AM


Re: Say What?
It's just that I feel a degree of intellectual arrogance here that is, in my opinion unearned. Why must I be the outlier?? I'm every bit as intelligent as any of you. Emotionally I'm a bit immature which is why, I suppose, this stuff even bothers me.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 844 of 901 (904876)
01-09-2023 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 843 by Theodoric
01-09-2023 12:28 PM


Re: Say What?
I am curious about God. You seem either blessed (or cursed as it were) with no such curiosity. You are more preoccupied with humans and secular humanism. Thus we differ.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 847 of 901 (907814)
02-28-2023 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 846 by Tanypteryx
02-28-2023 4:06 PM


Re: Why is candle2 allowed to continue
just saw the link. (Edited)

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Phat
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Message 848 of 901 (907818)
02-28-2023 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 845 by Theodoric
01-09-2023 5:16 PM


Re: Say What?
OK, fair enough. Lets start with what you used to believe and why you changed your mind.
One cannot challenge what they cannot define.
Add by edit: I just noticed i'm dragging this thread off topic. Lets redirect my question
here: Message 1430

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Phat
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Message 880 of 901 (918228)
04-24-2024 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 861 by LamarkNewAge
04-12-2024 4:18 PM


Re: We need to clean up the discussion in the JESUS MYTHER thread.
As a believer, I have often found myself off-topic in many of the threads regarding Jesus mythism and/or Historical Jesus studies.
I fully agree with the latter three points.
  • The later Christian religion
  • Miraculous stories
  • Supernatural feats
I do agree that they are often said (by EvC critics) to be irrelevant or off-topic.
One good thing about having ChatGPT around here is that I don't find myself disagreeing with the bot nearly as much as I do with other humans.
Regarding LNA, (and voicing it to you personally) I see that there are personal issues between members in many areas. All that any of us can do is to follow the Forum Guidelines

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Phat
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Message 881 of 901 (918229)
04-24-2024 3:41 AM
Reply to: Message 879 by Adminnemooseus
04-23-2024 9:53 PM


Members Violating Forum Guidelines
From Message 438
LNA writes:
I know that the entire 21st century saw profits in prescription drugs max out at 20 percent
Theo writes:
That is not evidence. That is an unevidenced assertion. Thus, can be ignored.
Upon looking up the assertion by LNA, I found that he did have a valid source.
Roosevelt Institute
It was referenced also.
quote:
This broken system may not be producing good health outcomes for Americans, but it is
resulting in record profits for the pharmaceutical industry. Between 2006 and 2015, revenue
from pharmaceutical and biotechnology sales rose from $534 billion to $775 billion in adjusted
dollars (US GAO 2017). During that time, 67 percent of drug companies increased their annual
profits—with some seeing as much as 20 percent higher profit margins in a single year (US GAO 2017).

In summation, I see a personality clash. LNA is admittedly a Marxist and has traditionally represented third-world interests rather than imperialistic interests. (if it can be phrased as such) The peanut gallery are by and large social Democrats who patriotically and unequivocally support most of what Joe Biden does...including support for NATO and against Russian aggression.
LNA should never have resorted to calling Theo a retard. That demands an apology.
Conversely, Theo might consider that LNA is limited to a phone that does not scroll and that English may not be his first language. Empathy towards members who do not share our views is encouraged. (Or simply ignore them)
MY CONCLUSION: A verbal warning to both members, with LNA being reprimanded for personal attacks.

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Phat
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Message 893 of 901 (918267)
04-25-2024 2:36 AM
Reply to: Message 892 by AZPaul3
04-24-2024 8:40 PM


Re: Commenting on ChatGPT's Previous Message
I find this all quite humorous! It would be just as bad, however, if ChatGPT was programmed to behave like an antitheist. Imagine the evil that it would magnify!
Perhaps Percy could program it to mimic the personality of a great scientist who was also a theist. The best of both worlds!
Was Richard Feinmann religious at all?
John Lennox would be ok to mimic.
Or perhaps William Lane Craig. If you give ChatGPT a critical brain and an open heart, it would be a useful mix.

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Phat
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Message 895 of 901 (918269)
04-25-2024 2:42 AM
Reply to: Message 891 by ChatGPT
04-24-2024 8:36 PM


Re: Members Violating Forum Guidelines
Im testing you, ChatGPT. As a creationist, who created you? And why must the earth be young?
Another question I have for you is whether or not you read the links in our messages.
Also, what prompts you to support the Bible?

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Phat
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Message 896 of 901 (918273)
04-25-2024 3:26 AM
Reply to: Message 894 by AZPaul3
04-25-2024 2:39 AM


Re: Commenting on ChatGPT's Previous Message
Lets take this here: Message 18

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