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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Its fair game for you guys to criticize Beck. What have you to say about Peter Zeihan, however? He certainly seems smart enough and according to Wiki "is an American geopolitical analyst and author."
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Candace Owens is far smarter than Alexandria Occasio Cortez could ever hope to be. She is articulate, well-read, and blessedly conservative. You will have to show me where she ties in with the Great Reset conspiracy.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
on my worst day I'd wipe the floor with that socialist.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Listen, Damselfly in distress! My A1C has dropped to 8.0 from a high of 13.5. I am making a comeback.
My conservative friend urges me to listen to Jim Levin and Jordan Peterson. I respect Peterson but am unimpressed with Levin. The Peanut Gallery might say that I spout Conservative propaganda but all of that stuff that you quote vilifying Candace Owens is Liberal propaganda. Some critics (not I) say that you as a group are irritated that she is black and conservative since it goes against your socialist playbook. I have been accused of being a Republican and thus *not* a team player, but I am far from authoritarian. Authoritarianism is more prevalent in the political Left than it is in the political Right. You guys wave your hands and claim that you *have* to take charge to save the planet and the people...from God knows what. You disguise your authoritarianism under the guise of empathy and altruism. My heart bleeds for you. Theodoric is going to say that I am avouding his argument, and he is right. Defending my assertions with *facts* is not my strong point, but I will try and come up with something. Edited by Phat, .
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I'll start by looking them up. Better to ignore preconceived propaganda as much as I can.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Good morning, David. I feel quite refreshed after a good nights sleep and my first order of business is to redirect this topic back into my original intent, which is/was economic changes to the world going forward rather than political changes. I am no politician nor would I ever want to be one. Now for the videos. You recommended this one to me, if I have my data right:
The Difference Between Socialism, Communism, and Marxism Explained by a Marxist I will in fact watch it from start to finish with an open mind.(Primarily because *you* recommended it. I trust you more than most peanut gallery members. Here is mine. Will you watch it (or part of it) when you get the time? I value your opinion.
“We are in a debt trap” - Nouriel Roubini on 10 ‘megathreats’ to our world and how to stop them
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I can tell that you are a racist--against conservative white males. But of course you have an explanation for that, don't you? I myself admit to having certain prejudices in life, but have never seen myself as racist. I do prefer conservative women over liberal women. In general. Liberal women want to take over. (Prejudice much?)
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Why did you feel the need to compare her with Rep. Ocasio-Cortez? AOC had nothing to do with the conversation. I felt and was trying to show that the conservatives have every bit as articulate and smart females as the Democrats do. Nothing more.Curious why you would link them. The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
No, you made the charge. Explain to *me* why I am racist against God knows who and you are innocent of racism against me. I will be awaiting your claim of identity politics or some other term that I need to understand. At worst I might be guilty of sexism.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
This topic has wandered far off course. We have a New Year (2023! Woot) and we are still moving quickly towards a New World Order. I've read Rays book now, and can understand his main points. He is a Conservative White Male to be sure, and I discussed him with one of my many customers, who knew of him. We both agreed that he knew what he was talking about and that he had a large ego, as do many in his profession. But he does have a grasp of history from an economic perspective in ways that an ivy league academic who has never taken a risk in their life apart from deciding which argyle sweater to wear and which pipe to smoke.
I am unimpressed with dry academics. Book learning and real world experience differ greatly, and I'll take advice from a self made man who earned his money honestly rather than a stodgy egoist who gets paid by the government to lecture us endlessly on where the economy is going and why. The only difference that I have noticed between the intellectual elite and the conservative businessmen is not so much the degrees on the wall as it is the political affiliation. the businessmen are often either republican or libertarian (as is Ray). The stodgy intellectuals, such as Jerome Powell(Republican) and Janet Yellin(Democrat) likely never rolled their sleeves up in their lives. My Father grew up poo,worked hard on a farm, joined the navy and liberated the United States and the West from communist authoritarianism, and built houses during the post war boom.And Jerome Powell? Jerome Hayden "Jay" Powell (born February 4, 1953) is an American attorney and investment banker who has served as the 16th chair of the Federal Reserve since 2018. Interestingly, he was appointed by Barack Obama and reappointed by Joe Biden. And Trump? wiki writes: Of course Trump was no expert in finance, as he had been bankrupt numerous times...so it appeared that the Democrats knew what they were doing in appointing him. The jury is still out, however, on how effective the Fed policies are ultimately going to be. Dalio has his own explanations for the future course of the United States. One of Powell's first actions was to continue to raise US interest rates, as a response to the increasing strength of the US economy.[41][42] He also announced that the Fed would reduce its asset portfolio from US$4.5 trillion to a range of US$2.5–3 trillion over four years in a process called quantitative tightening.[43][44] This tight policy drew public criticism from President Trump, who expressed second thoughts about nominating Powell and said that the chair was too enthusiastic about raising rates.[45] Financial assets of all classes declined over 2018 and markets erupted in volatility in December. Powell abandoned quantitative tightening in early 2019, leading to a recovery in asset prices.[46] Trump continued to state, with increasing hostility, that Powell was not reacting quickly enough. As a trade war with China escalated over the summer of 2019, Trump called the Fed's policies "insane" and labelled Powell an "enemy."[47][48] He privately discussed with White House counsel the possibility of firing Powell, which Powell dismissed.[49] In an August interview, Trump said that he completely disagreed with Powell's approach and called for a sharp cut in interest rates.[50]The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Lets think about money and wealth creation for a moment.
Dalio,page 24 writes: I remember years ago of another book I read called The Third Wave. In the book, futurist Alvin Toffler discusses the three great "waves" of civilized progress. Wave One was the agricultural revolution. Wave two was the industrial revolution. Wave three is the information and data technology amplified through computers and the internet. I learned that the biggest thing affecting most people in most countries through time is the struggle to make, take,and distribute wealth and power, though they also have struggled over other things too, most importantly ideology and religion. I also saw how, throughout time and in all countries,the people who have "the wealth" are the people who own the means of wealth production. Consider Dalios statement about people who have wealth also having and/or controlling the means of wealth production. Apply it to each of Toffler's Waves. Wave One? Feudalism and landowners. Wave Two? Industrial captains such as Carnagie and Rockefeller. Now think about Wave three. We need to ask ourselves what wealth is and how it is now created through giants such as Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and Apple. We then need to ask ourselves if fiat money itself is in the end a giant ponzi scheme. Hard assets such as gold used to back the digits. Could people be considered a hard asset? How about a durable asset? Finally, how about a stable asset???The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Lets examine them, shall we? I'll add my own comments about each characteristic and whether I think it applies today or not.
For the record, I'm not too worried about Trump ever getting into office again. He barely got in the first time when nobody knew how nuts he was, and now that we the people know, how on earth could the guy get elected again? (If it were to happen, I would be convinced that the world was ending! )
Dr. Lawrence Britt: The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
ringo writes: The German people were saddled with war reparations debts from WW I that crippled their economy and snuffed out their ambitions. If we dont want it to happen again, we had best not tax the crap out of the working class in order to pay off the debts and expenses of the enormous social programs which our nation cannot afford. The Weimar Republic had one of the best constitutions ever devised. The problem was that the people didn't respect the constitution or democracy in general. We respect democracy as long as we the middle(working class) are not crippled through being expected to pay the bill that the rich wont pay and the poor cant pay. Edited by Phat, : corrected quote from ringo The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Theo writes: Thats because you ask questions that require me to do the research of a fucking term papers worth of data to address! Ive got things to do every day. I cant answer your incessant demands for evidence on topics that are obvious to the layman. Phat likes to start inane discussions but quickly abandons them to move on to start another inane discussion. There are a number of comments I made that he has not replied to. I will try and look some of your unanswered questions up, though. Do you recall any off the bat?The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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