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Message 1310 of 1429 (903736)
12-16-2022 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1309 by Dredge
12-16-2022 1:25 AM


Re: UCD evidence barking
Actually barking DOWN the tree is making use of the Tree of Life analogy, Dredge. To get back to the UCD,
you would need to go DOWN the branches to the single trunk at the bottom in the usual typical diagram.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 1311 of 1429 (903738)
12-16-2022 3:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1304 by Dredge
12-15-2022 11:50 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredge asks:
What the hell are you talking about?
I was talking about the careful laboratory conditions and practices used in proper medical research.
Surely you don't think they do the research in the back of some stationwagon or truck?
With no knowledge of the RNA-DNA relatedness due to UCD, they might find something in 4000 years.
But I don't have that kind of time to wait.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

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Message 1317 of 1429 (903854)
12-17-2022 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1306 by AZPaul3
12-15-2022 6:44 PM


Re: UCD evidence
AZPaul3 beautifully forecasts Dredges reply:
All that says is that UCD was useful in developing the vaccine. But it does not say that UCD was in any way useful in developing the vaccine.
Spot on!
Suck on that, Dredge!

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 1333 of 1429 (903924)
12-18-2022 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1331 by Dredge
12-18-2022 1:36 PM


Re: UCD evidence
yes, this would be your form of trolling:
--> from your link:
"In slang, a troll is a person who posts or makes inflammatory, insincere, digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages online (such as in social media, a newsgroup, a forum, a chat room, a online video game), or in real life, with the intent of provoking others into displaying emotional responses,[2] or manipulating others' perception. The behavior is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or purposefully causing confusion or harm to other users online."

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Message 1335 of 1429 (903931)
12-19-2022 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1334 by Dredge
12-18-2022 10:40 PM


Re: UCD evidence
No, that's not from the link. You made that up. Trolling is about fishing.
ha haha ha ha from your earlier Message 1329:
"Trolling is a method of fishing where one or more fishing lines, baited with lures or bait fish, are drawn through the water. This may be behind a moving boat, or by slowly winding the line in when fishing from a static position, or even sweeping the line from side-to-side, e.g. when fishing from a jetty."
Troll (slang) - Wikipedia(fishing)
YOU ARE SO BUSTED!
Guess you should have used Hillary's BleachBit to erase that message.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 1338 of 1429 (903934)
12-19-2022 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1336 by Dredge
12-19-2022 1:30 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredgings:
Please cite a scientific paper that says the use of cow and pig insulin for humans would not have been possible without the theory of UCD.
None needed here. It's common sense.
You're up in this Tree of Life on one branch and you think maybe some of these
other branches near you can provide some help. You right now think that it's
a good thing all of the Tree is supported by the main trunk at the bottom.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 1369 of 1429 (904047)
12-20-2022 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1361 by ringo
12-20-2022 10:51 AM


Re: To Know: Two Different Definitions
Ringo writes:
The reason you couldn't get off the ground was because you were trying to fly a brick.
Maybe he's from outer space!
The shuttle astronauts often described landing the shuttle as like landing a brick.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 1416 of 1429 (905896)
02-05-2023 6:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1412 by Dredge
02-04-2023 11:40 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Dredgings:
Taq writes:
Toll-like receptors were first discovered in fruit flies, and through common descent they were discovered in other species, including humans. Our knowledge of toll-like receptors are vital for understanding immunology, including our knowledge of how vaccines work.
Show me a single thing in the paragraph above that is not true
Too easy ... you can't demonstrate it's "true" (ie, a fact) that it was "through common descent" that
toll-like receptors were discovered in other species, including humans.
As I've already pointed out, you can't cite even one scientist involved in toll-receptor research who says anything about the role UCD played. In the article you provided, no such scientist even mentions evolution, let alone UCD.
"Hey, I know of a theory that all life uses WATER! And all water is determined to consist of Hydrogen and Oxygen!
But I can't cite a single peer-reviewed paper that says so. "
- Captain Obvious, getting stuck in a dredging folly

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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