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Topic: The Changing World Order
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 89 of 302 (903174)
12-05-2022 6:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 88 by Phat
12-05-2022 6:37 PM
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Re: Phat Hedges His Bets
Done with the willful ignorance. Go from Pied Piper to Pied Piper.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 93 of 302 (903184)
12-05-2022 11:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 92 by DrJones*
12-05-2022 11:47 PM
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It is times like this I think he has been pulling a Poe on us all this time. It is astounding that anyone could be this so lacking in self-awareness.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 113 of 302 (903284)
12-07-2022 9:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 112 by kjsimons
12-07-2022 7:27 PM
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Re: Back On Topic...Sort Of...
Phat thinks taxation is authoritarian.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 129 of 302 (903368)
12-08-2022 8:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 128 by Phat
12-08-2022 5:45 PM
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Cherry picking is very bad form
Weird how you removed an important section in the middle of what you quoted. I wonder why. Let's see what part you skipped.
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“The reforms put in place by New Deal, including encouraging the beginning of the labor movement, which fostered wage growth and sustained the purchasing power of millions of Americans, the establishment of Social Security and the federal regulations imposed on the financial industry, as imperfect as they were, essentially ensured there wouldn’t be another Great Depression after the 1930s,” says Nelson Lichtenstein, professor of history and director of the Center for the Study of Work, Labor and Democracy at the University of California, Santa Barbara. “And there hasn’t been. We’ve had a few close calls, but nothing like the Great Depression,” he says.
Weird, huh. Also, you skip another important part in the same article. Let's see what that says.
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According to Linda Gordon, professor of history at New York University, the Works Progress Administration, created in 1935, also had a positive impact by employing more than 8 million Americans in building projects ranging from bridges and airports to parks and schools. Such programs certainly helped end the Great Depression, “but were insufficient [because] the amount of government funds for stimulus wasn’t large enough,” she notes. “Only World War II, with its demands for massive war production, which created lots of jobs, ended the Depression.”
So the New Deal needed to be bigger and bolder, to solve everything but what it did was amazing. As for Churchill he was a brilliant war leader but mediocre outside of war. He did not come to power by an election. He took over leadership of the Conservative Party in May 1940 thus became Prime Minister. The last election was in 1935. The next was in 1945. It was a monumental loss for Churchill and his party.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 131 of 302 (903374)
12-09-2022 9:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 130 by Phat
12-09-2022 9:15 AM
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Re: How The Economic Machine Works
Tell me what I said that was ignorant and uninformed. We don't debate by video. Summarize what he says. Why do you persist in presenting him as an expert on the economy? He is not. He is a billionaire hedge fund manager.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 132 of 302 (903375)
12-09-2022 9:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 130 by Phat
12-09-2022 9:15 AM
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Re: How The Economic Machine Works
I have some emails out to some people I highly respect that have backgrounds in economics to see if they can give me their opinion on Dalio, his writings and his videos. Hopefully, they have time to respond.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 134 of 302 (903377)
12-09-2022 9:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 133 by Phat
12-09-2022 9:41 AM
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Re: How The Economic Machine Works
Your questions show how ridiculous you are. You have become a caricature of yourself. That you even ask these questions is astounding. Even for you. But as you still do not want to have a serious conversation, goodbye. But I will continue to point out stupidity, dishonesty, and failures of logic.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 149 of 302 (903411)
12-09-2022 9:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 148 by Phat
12-09-2022 2:30 PM
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Re: A Brief Rabbit Trail starring FDR and the Dems
But that isn't how the gold deal went down. The things you don't understand always astound me. The purpose was not to fuck people over but to stabilize the economy.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 151 of 302 (903413)
12-10-2022 7:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 150 by Phat
12-10-2022 12:37 AM
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Understanding the purpose of government
Do what? Make decisions to keep the economy from collapsing? The purpose of government is not to protect personal wealth. It is to support the commonweal.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 172 of 302 (903455)
12-10-2022 1:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 153 by Phat
12-10-2022 10:41 AM
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Re: Understanding the purpose of government
No. I mean commonweal. Maybe if you do not know what a word means you might want to consider looking it up instead of spouting your ignorance.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 173 of 302 (903456)
12-10-2022 1:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 160 by Phat
12-10-2022 11:26 AM
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Re: Understanding the purpose of government
Please tell me how Henry Ford. He did it himself voluntarily.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 176 of 302 (903460)
12-10-2022 2:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 174 by Phat
12-10-2022 1:57 PM
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Re: Understanding the purpose of government
Maybe you should not assume. I venture to guess most people here are familiar with yhe word. The word commonweal is independent of the magazine. Only people like you would think that the betterment of society as a whole is a ba d thing. You understand nothing about politics, political theory and the purpose of government, yet you continue to spout right-wing crap that has been debunked multitudes of times.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 178 of 302 (903462)
12-10-2022 2:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 175 by Phat
12-10-2022 1:59 PM
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Re: Henry Ford
Ford did what voluntarily? If not being the stupidest motherfucker in the room makes me arrogant than I guess I am arrogant.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 198 of 302 (904028)
12-20-2022 12:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 197 by ringo
12-20-2022 11:24 AM
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Re: Take Me To Your Liter
Phat would embrace this guy.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 211 of 302 (904131)
12-22-2022 10:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 208 by Phat
12-22-2022 5:07 AM
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Re: Candace Over AOC
This Candace Owens? Candace Owens Pushes Unfounded Claim About Zelensky's Wife: 'Despicable''People are just so stupid': Candace Owens defends the Confederate flag and equates slavery with owning yachts'New low': Candace Owens shredded for documentary claiming George Floyd wasn't murdered She is a grifter that has sold her soul. As for ties to Great Reset she is close to and associated with Turning Point USA which is one of organizations pushing this the hardest. More on Candace. Letter: Here are just a few reasons people might have protested Candace Owens' appearance at NDSU - InForum | Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo news, weather and sports Why did you feel the need to compare her with Rep. Ocasio-Cortez? AOC had nothing to do with the conversation. Curious why you would link them.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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