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Tangle
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Message 1 of 29 (903993)
12-12-2022 7:30 AM


I came across this video lecture by Bart Ehrman that's all about the gospels that didn't make the cut for the cannon and the various Christian sects that were all competing for their own brand of Christianity to win though.
The winners were of course those that we have today - the "Orthodox" - and they got to write the history and destroy most of the texts for the other gospels. But some have been found in hidden stashes.
It's history, not exactly religion. I just thought others might be interested too.

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Tangle
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Message 2 of 29 (903994)
12-18-2022 3:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
12-12-2022 7:30 AM


Bump

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 5 of 29 (904007)
12-20-2022 7:17 AM


It could have all been so different...

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
Tangle
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Message 9 of 29 (904297)
12-26-2022 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Mahershalalhashbaz
12-26-2022 6:47 AM


Re: the gospels that didn't make the cut
baz writes:
The four canonical gospels were accepted by the church because those who knew Jesus were alive to verify their accuracy.
Evidence please.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 16 of 29 (904415)
12-29-2022 9:17 AM
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12-29-2022 7:55 AM


Re: the gospels that didn't make the cut
Phat writes:
Perhaps our new member just likes to air his opinion. You got a problem with that?
He made a claim
quote:
The four canonical gospels were accepted by the church because those who knew Jesus were alive to verify their accuracy.
I doubt his claim is true. One reason I think it false is because the canon wasn't settled until the mid 4th century.
But you know how this works, he now has to provide the evidence he's used to make the claim.
If it's just an unevidenced opinion; end of conversation.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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