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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
But you DO believe that Jesus existed before He was born. My point was that you can't believe in someone before they were born.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Well, you have more potato in you than most of us. This superstition includes the hilarious belief that humans and potatoes, for example, evolved from the same organism.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
There is no need to "prove" that Jesus never existed, no more than there is a need to prove that leprechauns don't exist. Where there is no evidence, the default is that it didn't happen. My only beef with "scientists" is when they try and prove that Jesus never existed. But you don't care about the truth of whether ot not Jesus existed. Your thinking is exactly like the creationists: cling to your superstitions despite all the evidence.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Even your creationism is behind the times. The so-called "Cambrian explosion" has been explained six ways from Sunday. The Cambrian Explosion alone makes a mockery of the superstition of UCD.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Explain what is funny and/or dumb about what I said. This is a joke, right? No one could be this dumb.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Of course it is. How are they different? You think me asking for a practical use for UCD in medical science or applied biology is the same as asking for evidence of UCD itself.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
As usual, you understand nothing. And you lie about things you can not possibly know. I'm beginning to understand why you flunked Elementary school ...Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
You're a fool. Why don't you trust what Darwinists say?
... only a fool would trust what Darwinoids say... Dredge writes:
Cow and pig insulin.
What advancement in the treatment of disease has resulted from the "use" of the theory of UCD? Dredge writes:
Where did you get that idea anyway? From somebody else with an IQ of 9? You certainly didn't get it from anybody with any knowledge of medical science.
UCD has no practical use in medical science... Dredge writes:
You're a self-confessed idiot and you've wasted a lot of time on it in this thread.
... only an idiot or a delusional Darwinoid would waste time on it. Dredge writes:
And YOU don't understand what a theory is. Saying "only a theory" is like saying "only a trillion dollars". The word "only" doesn't really apply to something so vast.
... the only thing you "know" about UCD is that it's a theory. Dredge writes:
Hmm... I'm pretty sure I mentioned one: cow and pig insulin. I want to know if the theory of UCD has provided a practical advancement in medical science or applied biology ... I haven't encountered one yet.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
I can't believe that you don't understand: "relatedness of all species" is exactly the same as common descent. If you concede that all species are related, then you HAVE to accept common descent. You DO, in fact, accept common descent.
It doesn't make any difference to medicine what the "relatedness of all species" is due to, so the "due to common descent" part of your comment is superfluous and irrelevant. Dredge writes:
Cow and pig insulin.
You keep insisting that UCD is useful to medicine, but you can't cite even one example to support your claim. Dredge writes:
And you've been wrong every time.
I've pointed out that glaring flaw to you many time... Dredge writes:
And we have no choice but to conclude that your self-admitted IQ of 9 in no way qualifies you to reach that conclusion.
I'm sorry, APauling, but I've no choice but to conclude that you're a fool or you're mentally ill. Dredge writes:
1. "Merely a theory" - i.e. merely the most complete explanation we have - is a nonsensical statement. Secondly, UCD is merely a theory - you can't prove that it's "reality".2. Science doesn't attempt to "prove" anything. 3. You're demonstrating that you have no ability to learn anything. Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
I've asked him that question several times. He won't/can't answer it. He doesn't even dare to think about it. Explain any advances in the field of medicine among the clergy and laymen of the RCC that successfully moved forward in our (human) "fight" against childhood diseases or cancer treatments that willfully avoided the mainstream consensus at oh I dunno...UCLA or the Mayo clinic?Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Nonsense. Negative results are still useful. For example, we tried prayer and got nothing but negative results, so we learned not to waste any more time on it. Routes for research that don't result in any practical advancement of medical science are meaningless ... and duh, useless.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
That's what I said. Research based on the theory of UCD that results in no practical benefit means the theory of UCD is actually useful?
I gave an example in the message you quoted: We tried prayer and got nothing but negative results, so we learned not to waste any more time on it.
Dredge writes:
Certainly. Knowing that a teaspoon is not useful in golf is useful knowledge. A teaspoon is useful for playing golf bcoz we tried it and got only negative results? By trying a teaspoon in golf, we learned not to waste any more time on it. If we all had your disdain for negative results, every golfer would be carrying a bag ful of teasppons.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
A visitor to Saskatchewan once marveled that there are farm-chemical ads on TV in prime time.
... the local news and newspapers rarely covered more than local news, farm news... dwise1 writes:
The reason Canadians are so friendly is because we feel obligated to tell everybody we meet how cold it is. ... and the weather....Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
One - i.e. you - would be wrong. Dredge is a non-thinker. He even admits to being an idiot.
The issue is Dredge's intelligence. Surely he is an independent thinker, one would assume. Phat writes:
Another wrong assumption. Intelligence can be defined in simplest terms as the ability to learn. Creationists do not have that.
I start out by assuming that anyone in this forum who stays around more than a month has basic intelligence. Phat writes:
Dredge said in Message 111, "my IQ is less than 10". To be fair, I am still reading back through the topic, however.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
You contradict yourself. You once called me "retarded" but I'm pretty quick on the draw. ... you can't expect a quick response from an idiot with an IQ of only 9. (As Abraham Lincoln supposedly said, nobody has a good enough memory to be a good liar.)Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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