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Phat
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Message 896 of 1184 (886278)
05-13-2021 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 893 by ringo
05-12-2021 5:21 PM


Re: Violence and root causes.
ringo writes:
If a plurality elects representatives who believe that reparations are the way to go, then reparations you will pay.
There is always a way to challenge authority. Its as human as fear of snakes. I have a fear of snakes who are smarter than God.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 897 of 1184 (886279)
05-13-2021 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 892 by xongsmith
05-12-2021 3:36 PM


Re: Violence and root causes.
Yes, Phat - white Christians ARE the problem.
So which cultural group are we replacing them with in the social hierarchy? Are there any worthy enough? Who gets to run the planet next? What qualifications do they have?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 918 of 1184 (894745)
05-28-2022 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 917 by AZPaul3
05-27-2022 8:07 PM


Re: Don't Expect Much
AZ writes:
We are a sick society and Christianity and their fellow right-wing republican cohorts are the disease.
What about Left Wing Christians? Are they too evil?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 947 of 1184 (895065)
06-07-2022 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 946 by jar
06-07-2022 8:30 AM


Re: Where are all the good guys with guns?
Wait a minute. Are you saying that in many cases, "The Police" and "Responsible Gun Owners" disagree about eliminating or controlling crimes of violence through legislation?
And are you saying that since there will always be profiteers, the motive should be controlled?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 995 of 1184 (895142)
06-08-2022 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 994 by jar
06-08-2022 4:22 PM


Re: Where are all the good guys with guns?
Could it be that the money for such programs simply isn't available in these times?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 998 of 1184 (895145)
06-08-2022 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 996 by AZPaul3
06-08-2022 6:18 PM


Re: Where are all the good guys with guns?
So? The public has no access to them.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 1101 of 1184 (896487)
08-11-2022 7:13 AM


In A Nutshell

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 1102 of 1184 (896491)
08-11-2022 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1100 by Theodoric
08-04-2022 10:46 AM


Re: Finally, a Good Guy With a Gun!
Jar would argue that the constitution supports the argument. What would the old 80-year-old shop owner have done to protect himself otherwise?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 1104 of 1184 (896493)
08-11-2022 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1103 by Percy
08-11-2022 11:00 AM


Re: In A Nutshell
Perhaps the only question is this: With such legislation in place, would the thieves still be able to get their guns illegally?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 1115 of 1184 (903069)
12-02-2022 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1111 by Percy
12-02-2022 1:11 AM


Re: A Good Guy With a Gun
I'm not even sure if I would have a gun at home, but the lesson here is certainly that one best leave their gun at home and definitely never bring it to work.
Guns tend to complicate things, but I would never be in favor of outlawing them because as the saying goes, only outlaws (and some robbers and thieves) would have them. Carjackings are not a peaceful thought. Which is one reason I own a clunker. Nobody would want to carjack me!

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Nor are Democrats the best party or the only one we should have. -Phat,2022 addressing The Peanut Gallery.

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Phat
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Message 1117 of 1184 (903495)
12-12-2022 3:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1001 by jar
06-08-2022 9:50 PM


Re: a plot that kinda blurs things
jar(missing in action) writes:
So are you suggesting a magazine capacity limit?
Personally, I say to bring as many magazines to the picnic as you can. The girls need new ones for their beauty parlor.
We've moved way away from the Gun Control thread, but I just wanted to flag you down and see if you are ok. Anyone who agrees with me that you are worth checking up on hit this post up with a green like!

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Message 1118 of 1184 (903496)
12-12-2022 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1109 by Percy
08-12-2022 10:18 AM


Re: In A Nutshell
Percy writes:
Once guns are safely locked away in serious lockboxes maybe people will realize the guns are not really available for home defense, and further, that their homes and persons have never been under constant threat of attack by thieves and murderers, that the country, most of it, is a far safer place than they thought.
Of course it depends a lot on where you live.

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Message 1125 of 1184 (909162)
03-28-2023 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1124 by Percy
03-28-2023 11:17 AM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
That is perhaps the saddest and most heart wrenching article that I have ever read. Those AR 15's need to be outlawed or limited to police and military only. There is no good use for such a gun.

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Phat
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Message 1131 of 1184 (909244)
03-30-2023 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1127 by marc9000
03-29-2023 9:28 PM


AR-15 kept around in case of mainland invasion?
Phat writes:
Those AR 15's need to be outlawed or limited to police and military only. There is no good use for such a gun.
marc9000 writes:
How about a military, ground invasion of the U.S. by the Taliban, Iran, China, Russia?
If that is the only primary reason for keeping it legal to own such a weapon, I would argue that the current risk(random civilian shootings) outweighs the only reward(protecting the US mainland in the event of an invasion). Comments?

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