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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
I'd call it Christian. ringo writes:
Interesting. What would you call it? Moderate? Nothing I have said is remotely far-left or Marxist.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Duh! By destroying Nazism. Explain to me how *we* could have achieved and implemented a common good that benefited Americans, Japanese, Germans and Russians all at the same time.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
And I might add that a useful rabbit trail would be to discuss individualism vs Collectivism.
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
So how could *we* have destroyed Naziism without World War II?
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
My point was that there would not have BEEN a World War II if Hitler hadn't been supported by individual wealth. So how could *we* have destroyed Naziism without World War II?Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Point taken. I will have to continue my studies.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
No. I mean commonweal. Maybe if you do not know what a word means you might want to consider looking it up instead of spouting your ignorance.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Please tell me how Henry Ford.
He did it himself voluntarily. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
thats a rude reply. I make spelling mistakes, and I wrongly assumed that Theodoric The Great may have made one. I'll match my intelligence against yours any day, old man.
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
OK, I assumed Henry Ford did it himself voluntarily.
Perhaps I am guilty of intellectual laziness, but it appears you are guilty of intellectual arrogance.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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Maybe you should not assume. I venture to guess most people here are familiar with yhe word. The word commonweal is independent of the magazine. Only people like you would think that the betterment of society as a whole is a ba d thing. You understand nothing about politics, political theory and the purpose of government, yet you continue to spout right-wing crap that has been debunked multitudes of times.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
A man can never improve their wisdom or intelligence by being surrounded by a peanut gallery. People who disagree with me teach me more than goobers who agree.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Ford did what voluntarily?
If not being the stupidest motherfucker in the room makes me arrogant than I guess I am arrogant.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18298 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
For the record, yes I do assume at times. Perhaps it is a lazy habit, if not a bad one.
And also, I actually looked up the definition(s) of commonweal. I didnt just look at the image and assume it mean't socialist. I was just reacting rather than responding. Occasionally, I learn something from you.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Peanut gallery seems to be another term that you don't understand. It refers to people who are not necessarily active in the debate but who comment among themselves about it. In Yiddish they're called kibitzers. A man can never improve their wisdom or intelligence by being surrounded by a peanut gallery. And of course it IS possible to improve your wisdom and/or intelligence by listening to the peanut gallery. You SHOULD be able to learn from ANYBODY.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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