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Dredge Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling666 writes:
I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary.
And you know this how?
Can you cite any papers attesting to this indifference by medicine to the descent of life?
That's like asking me to cite papers attesting to the indifference by medicine to the Tooth Fairy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Irony?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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AZPaul3 writes:
That's like asking me to cite papers attesting to the indifference by medicine to the Tooth Fairy Can you cite any papers attesting to this indifference by medicine to the descent of life? Actually, he just presented a very good point there. You're just too stubbornly stupid -- and naturally stupid as well -- to realize it. Why publish scientific papers at all? Well, it's part of research. What do most scientists and medical researchers want to research? Examples would be:
One reason for research that you will almost never see is to constantly reinvent the wheel. Why? Because it would be a completely unnecessary waste of time, effort, and money (doing research does cost money). Because doing so would be like expecting me to completely rederive all the proofs of mathematics leading up to and including the proofs for finding a derivative every time I do a problem in differential calculus (though recently, half a century after having gone through that proof before, just for fun I did perform the proof for the derivative of the term xn -- after you've proven that, the derivative of axn is trivial). Or to perform all the experiments for deriving Ohm's Law and the power equation every time I use them in the design of an electrical circuit. Having to reinvent the wheel every time you need to use one is utterly stupid. The only time that one should need to go through all the proofs of mathematics is when you are learning mathematics. Same with all the formulas of physics, or with using the Periodic Table of Elements in chemistry, or with all kinds of lab procedures. Go through how they were developed and proven out in school while you are learning them, but once you have learned them then just use them. Until it is your turn to teach someone else. The fact of common ancestry of species and the resultant relationships between species because of that has already been established. No further research is needed -- except for exploring certain specific relationships, but that would not be done within the field of medical research. We already know that, so we can just simply use it. That means that the lack of explicit reinventing the wheel of common descent of species in medical research papers is they have more important things to do in that paper than to spend many of pages (hundreds, even, to do a complete job of it) to rederiving something that we already know. However, if one could do scientific research to try to refute common ancestry. Or to show that it has no use in medical research. So why hasn't that been done yet? That was AZPaul3's question to you. Your only answer was that such research would be so useless that it wouldn't even have any reason for existing, like medical research into the influence of the Tooth Fairy. So again, where are the papers attesting to your asserted indifference by medicine to the descent of life? Of course, you are far too stubbornly stupid (and also naturally stupid) to have understood any of that. To paraphrase Marcus Lycus, because of your extreme disinterest in improving yourself you are a eunuch and you will always be a eunuch. Of course it's wasted on you, but it's not a waste since at least everybody else can benefit from it. Edited by dwise1, : Correction: had left out the a in " -- after you've proven [xn], the derivative of axn is trivial)"
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary. In other words you have nothing. You pulled it from you ass. Another catholic lie. Typical dishonest religionist. Until you can produce some evidence for your conjecture then it is false and indeed medicine is predicated on the relatedness of all species due to common descent. When you lie like this, Cracker Breath, you merely reinforce the reality of common descent and evolution.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
[APauling666]In other words you have nothing. [/qs]
On the contrary, I have an argument that has yet to be countered by any conflicting evidence.
And speaking of having "nothing", I'm still waiting for you to provide a scientific opinion that supports your claim that Covid vaccines work due to UCD. I suspect my wait will be a long one ...
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Dredge Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling writes: On the contrary, I have an argument that has yet to be countered by any conflicting evidence. In other words you have nothing. And speaking of having "nothing", I'm still waiting for you to provide a scientific opinion that supports your claim that Covid vaccines work due to UCD. I suspect my wait will be a long one ...
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
On the contrary, I have an argument that has yet to be countered by any conflicting evidence. Argument? All you have is religiously-inspired anti-science speculation with no reasoning. And you have no evidence with which to conflict. Cracker head, you have nothing. You are lying again.
I suspect my wait will be a long one ... It's all there, Choir Boy. The internet is easy to search. Unlike your lying religious conjectures science publishes the evidence for anyone with an ounce of intellect to find. As for me spoon feeding your lazy assed fantasy ... when hell freezes over. What this whole discussion comes down to is you are too fucking lazy and afraid to even look at the evidence so easily found all around you, while no one, not even you, can provide evidence of your stupid-assed statement.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
For Dredge's benefit (though he probably won't understand it): We assume that the wheel we already invented will still work. Having to reinvent the wheel every time you need to use one is utterly stupid.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Dredge Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
APauling writes:
On the contrary, I accept that the theory of UCD is the best scientific explanation for the evidence ... for what it's worth. The fact you can't accept common descent is an intellectual failure. I also accept that science cannot explain the miracle of God's creation, so the "best scientific explanation for the evidence" will always be far from the truth and therefore worthless. The fact you can't accept divine creation is a reality failure.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
poof!
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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I accept that the theory of UCD is the best scientific explanation for the evidence ... for what it's worth. Why didn't you say that a long time ago?Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Dredge Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
I've been saying that for years. You haven't been paying attention.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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Dredgings:
And speaking of having "nothing", I'm still waiting for you to provide a scientific opinion that supports your claim that Covid vaccines work due to UCD. I suspect my wait will be a long one ... The vaccines use the RNA-DNA mechanism that was originated by the Universal Common Descent organism. Just google it, man: Science of mRNA - Moderna QED"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
The explanation is the same as for the miracle of Frodo destroying the One Ring. I also accept that science cannot explain the miracle of God's creation...Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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On the contrary, I accept that the theory of UCD is the best scientific explanation for the evidence ... for what it's worth. For pharmaceuticals the worth was $1.4 trillion in 2021.
I also accept that science cannot explain the miracle of God's creation, so the "best scientific explanation for the evidence" will always be far from the truth and therefore worthless. Well that is dumb. You can’t accept something that isn’t true. Science has explained your god’s creation. It is bogus. And in immunology the "best scientific explanation for the evidence" has been worth 800 million still living people this last year.
The fact you can't accept divine creation is a reality failure. In reality it’s a gift from god.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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