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Message 1142 of 1429 (902477)
11-24-2022 1:03 AM
Reply to: Message 1139 by Dredge
11-23-2022 6:22 PM


Troll
Troll

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1150 of 1429 (902554)
11-25-2022 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1147 by Dredge
11-25-2022 2:23 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Why would a scientific paper say such a thing? Why do you think it should? How would this support any position you have?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1151 of 1429 (902555)
11-25-2022 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 1148 by Dredge
11-25-2022 2:37 AM


Evidence be damned
So Goddidit. Right?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1175 of 1429 (902863)
11-28-2022 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1171 by Dredge
11-28-2022 2:19 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Even if your gotcha question was legitimate it would have no effect on UCD or the TOE. Nothing you say matters.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1177 of 1429 (902868)
11-28-2022 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1176 by xongsmith
11-28-2022 8:31 AM


Re: UCD evidence
He really thinks he has some sort of gotcha. He is that stupid.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1182 of 1429 (902947)
11-29-2022 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1180 by Dredge
11-29-2022 7:23 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Irrelevant as has been everything you said on this thread. What do you think your "gotcha" proves?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1189 of 1429 (903042)
12-01-2022 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1188 by Taq
12-01-2022 11:12 AM


Re: UCD evidence
I like how he sets the pins up so you can knock 'em down. I believe that was a strike.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1230 of 1429 (903248)
12-07-2022 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1223 by Dredge
12-07-2022 12:31 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Pythagoras didn't believe in Jesus.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1232 of 1429 (903250)
12-07-2022 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1231 by Phat
12-07-2022 9:20 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Again point missed. How could Newton believe in Evolution, before it was thought up?
I thought Jesus has always existed? Don't answer. Pulling your chain.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1236 of 1429 (903257)
12-07-2022 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1235 by dwise1
12-07-2022 11:41 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Or present the evidence that points toward creationism.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1246 of 1429 (903285)
12-07-2022 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1244 by Dredge
12-07-2022 7:40 PM


Re: UCD evidence
You can't just make claims you need evidence to support those claims.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 1264 of 1429 (903422)
12-10-2022 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1261 by Dredge
12-10-2022 9:31 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Nice deflection. Your dishonesty knows no bounds. Why do you think a scientific paper on COVID vaccines should mention UCD? Use actually coherent words and an attempt at a rational argument please.
Do you expect papers on stellar formation to include a defense of gravity?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1265 of 1429 (903423)
12-10-2022 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1262 by Dredge
12-10-2022 9:31 AM


Re: Evidence be damned
All of you claims come down to God did it.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1266 of 1429 (903424)
12-10-2022 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1263 by Dredge
12-10-2022 9:33 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Yet you are.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1273 of 1429 (903510)
12-12-2022 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1272 by Dredge
12-12-2022 9:48 AM


Re: UCD evidence
I love how the ignorant rubes come here spouting crap about subjects that they do not even grasp the basics of.
UCD is merely a theory, and it will never be anything more than a theory.
Theories are based upon factual evidence. Extensive factual evidence.
Hypothesis, theory, law - Google Docs
quote:
Theory: A theory is what one or more hypotheses become once they have been verified and accepted to be true. A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon tested hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers.
Theories do not grow up to be laws. They are distinctly different things but are both based upon verifiable evidence.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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