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Message 2005 of 2926 (902339)
11-21-2022 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 2003 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 5:47 PM


Re: Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Who cares what you believe, it is wrong.
I care. That's why I said that. And, I'm right.
Which one explained the Kishony and Lenski biological evolutionary experiments?
Not you, that's for sure. You put forth some bs muddled math and pat yourself on the back. But it's all wrong and you're the only one who can't see that.
But, then, you're on a religious mission. The facts mean nothing to you.
... the physics and mathematics of the Kishony and Lenski experiments.
... 200k retroviral infections
... koalas that may go extinct
Run home to your lies.
That is a sad defense of your fraud, Kleinman.

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Message 2007 of 2926 (902341)
11-21-2022 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2006 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 6:24 PM


Re: Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Fish evolve into mammals and reptiles evolve into birds, you are so smart.
I take it back. Not everything you say is a lie. You just made three factual observations in a row.

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Message 2018 of 2926 (902365)
11-22-2022 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 2008 by Kleinman
11-21-2022 6:52 PM


Re: Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Too bad you can't explain how bacteria evolve resistance to an antibiotic and why cancer treatments fail.
We can. You can't.
The papers on such things are all over the internet (google scholar). Your inane explanations were shown to be bogus.
You're a fraud, Kleinman.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 2033 of 2926 (902398)
11-23-2022 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 2029 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 9:32 AM


Re: Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Yeah, right, you know how to explain ...
Yes, we can. You can't.
And none of it negates the fact you are a fraud, Kleinman.
You say you corresponded with Lenski. Bring one of his responses here. Certainly you can manage a short cut-n-paste to this forum.
No, no, don't do that. You already faked one of your supposed sources in this thread. Can't trust you not to fake another.
You are a fraud, Kleinman.

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Message 2052 of 2926 (902421)
11-23-2022 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 2045 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 10:52 AM


Re: Response from Dr. Lenski.
But he does know that reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals because a fossil told him.
Lie after lie. You are a fraud, Kleinman. And a damned dumb one at that.
Taq in Message 2038
So says the person who got the math wrong. You falsely concluded that the fixation rate is the same as the rate of adaptive mutations. Let's not even get into your inane lies about the addition rule. You also can't get simple math right, such as your claim that it takes 1E9 replications to get an adaptive mutation but it only took 1E7 replications in the Lederberg experiment.
Taq took you to task. For a self-proclaimed math wiz, you suck at math.
You are a fraud, Kleinman.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2054 of 2926 (902423)
11-23-2022 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 2053 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 11:11 AM


Re: Response from Dr. Lenski.
You are a fraud, Kleinman.

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Message 2059 of 2926 (902428)
11-23-2022 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 2055 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 11:17 AM


Re: Resorting to spamming us
Of course, he hasn't done any of this, he just makes long, long, long, long goodbyes. He's a dope.
No. You are a fraud. Nothing you say is real. You blatantly lie for the sake of the lie. You fake resources. You muddle the math and insist it is real. You misrepresent what others say and twist the facts in their posts (200,000 times). You have the extreme lack of ethics and morality we come to expect from a meat-cracker catholic.
You are a religious fraud, Kleinman.

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Message 2062 of 2926 (902434)
11-23-2022 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 2061 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 12:12 PM


Re: Resorting to spamming us
So untwist them dumdum.
Taq and PaulK already did. Your muddled math is one of the major indictments to your fraud.
You are an intellectually and ethically stunted fraud, Kleinman.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 2070 of 2926 (902445)
11-23-2022 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2069 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 2:22 PM


Re: Resorting to spamming us
Yep, and licensed in both fields.
The way you have acted in this thread I doubt you are licensed for anything including the DMV.
Can't trust anything you say. That's what happens when you prove yourself to be a liar and a fraud.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 2080 of 2926 (902466)
11-23-2022 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 2079 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 7:39 PM


Re: Resorting to spamming us
You are wrong polymath and you know it.
No he isn't. Another ignorant claim by you. You are the one who is wrong. The problem is you don't know it despite the deliberate lies and frauds you tried to pull.

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Message 2088 of 2926 (902474)
11-23-2022 10:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2081 by Kleinman
11-23-2022 8:17 PM


Re: Resorting to spamming us
You fail to do the mathematics of the Kishony and Lenski experiments and you don't understand the physics and mathematics of biological evolution.
… he can't do the mathematics for the Kishony and Lenski experiment and he certainly doesn't understand the physics and mathematics of biological evolution.
... you can't do the mathematics for the Kishony and Lenski experiment and you know nothing about the physics and mathematics of biological evolution.
Me thinks Kleinman’s mind is more broken than I thought. Kleinman’s math was shown to be wrong. His analyses have been shown to be wrong. His pronouncements on evolution, genetics, biology, humanity, religion have all been shown to be wrong. With the scaffolding of his ego crumbling, I think he has to retreat into this safe place of his own misconceptions. Always the same misconceptions. It's like his mind cannot handle the disconnects between his ego and how he is perceived, which is poorly, deservedly, imho.
quote:
You fail to do the mathematics of the Kishony and Lenski experiments and you don't understand the physics and mathematics of biological evolution.
I see whenever he is challenged and knows he has lost there seems only the one thought process - run home to mama. Speak the invective. Recite the mantra.
quote:
You fail to do the mathematics of the Kishony and Lenski experiments and you don't understand the physics and mathematics of biological evolution.
I think his mind cannot function without the constant use of the crutch. Notice how often and how verbatim throughout this thread. He seems mentally stuck in a very deep deflection of reality. He has developed this into a mental tic.
Yeah, Taq was right. Kleinman is broken.

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Message 2091 of 2926 (902482)
11-24-2022 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 2090 by Kleinman
11-24-2022 8:21 AM


Fraud.

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Message 2093 of 2926 (902484)
11-24-2022 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 2092 by Kleinman
11-24-2022 9:17 AM


Before you came in did you let mama know you were home?

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AZPaul3
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Message 2095 of 2926 (902486)
11-24-2022 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 2094 by Kleinman
11-24-2022 10:15 AM


We want a good science fiction story.
Read your own catechism.

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Message 2209 of 2926 (902737)
11-27-2022 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 2206 by Kleinman
11-27-2022 10:57 AM


Re: Usable energy
Everyone saw your claim of an environment with unlimited energy. You said it and everyone know it.
I must have missed this. Regardless. The thermal excess available to the surface of this planet is orders of magnitude above utilization. You can build your model realistically with any energy gradient you desire. Not infinite, for sure, but can be realistically utilized as if it were.

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